Wow thats some fish.
Hey Bacon,thanks for the understanding.
Ron
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I have a pic of the first Muskie I ever caught and she was a beauty too, remember it was my first muskie ever caught....now I didn't think there was anything wrong with how I handled her...but a year later and many threads later I learned I was incorrect in my handling...ok lesson learned and I will now do a better job.
My point is that we don't always know until we are taught (sp?) otherwise and I will now handle my muskie better not because I was raked thru the coals but because I was taught to be better.
I have learned so much here and so can so many others. Guidance is so important. Be a teacher and we will learn.
My point is that we don't always know until we are taught (sp?) otherwise and I will now handle my muskie better not because I was raked thru the coals but because I was taught to be better.
I have learned so much here and so can so many others. Guidance is so important. Be a teacher and we will learn.
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Interesting story about being a newbie. Not on the board, but a real-life situation.
First job out of University and I'm working most stat holidays (newbie).
I notice that every holiday I work is a twelve hour shift, but my paysheet only pays me time and a half for 7.5 hours. The other four hours are regular time. If I don't work the holiday, I get 7.5 hours for it, even though my regular shift is twelve hours.
I ask my supervisor why that is.
"Because the company payroll is set up for 7.5 hour shifts." is his answer.
Hmm...
So I do a little research and find out that your stat holiday pay is supposed to be whatever shift you work, not what the company decides to pay you.
I ask my boss again why, in effect, are we volunteering 4 hours of labour every stat holiday?
"If you really want to know, go ask HR."
OK...
So off I go to HR and ask why this happens. I'm given a strange look and am told that the company payroll system is set up for 7.5 hours.
Then why are we working twelve?
"I'll look into it", she says.
Next day, my director (not my supervisor, not my manager... MY DIRECTOR!) comes into the office and, with a face as red as any angry human face I had ever seen tells me the following:
"You are a !*()ing shiftworker. If you don't like your hours you will be replaced. Now leave it alone!"
Apparently, this discussion had kept resurfacing every few years or so, as new staff would enter the department.
The Director would hear about it every time and was sick of it. There had even been a threat of bringing in labour boards and unions to change the company's methods in years gone by. The last thing the Director wanted was some new guy bringing up the past, the battles that were fought and the damage that was done.
My point?
I knew the regulations, he knew the history, everyone had their own opinions and none of it mattered.
Some points are destructive, regardless of the idealogical good that may be inferred.
He and I never got along very well after that, though I understood why he was so angry. Had anyone warned me not to bring up this sore spot and why; that this had been beaten to death before and that some things are better left alone, the whole thing could have been avoided.
About six years down the road, some new guys came in and the Director had left. The problem resurfaced and this time got solved. The guys now get paid what they are supposed to.
So who won? Nobody really. The new guys didn't know their had ever been a serious problem and the old director was long gone.
New and old. People and opinions. Perfect world and real world.
And time keeps marching on.
BTW, beautiful Trout!
First job out of University and I'm working most stat holidays (newbie).
I notice that every holiday I work is a twelve hour shift, but my paysheet only pays me time and a half for 7.5 hours. The other four hours are regular time. If I don't work the holiday, I get 7.5 hours for it, even though my regular shift is twelve hours.
I ask my supervisor why that is.
"Because the company payroll is set up for 7.5 hour shifts." is his answer.
Hmm...
So I do a little research and find out that your stat holiday pay is supposed to be whatever shift you work, not what the company decides to pay you.
I ask my boss again why, in effect, are we volunteering 4 hours of labour every stat holiday?
"If you really want to know, go ask HR."
OK...
So off I go to HR and ask why this happens. I'm given a strange look and am told that the company payroll system is set up for 7.5 hours.
Then why are we working twelve?
"I'll look into it", she says.
Next day, my director (not my supervisor, not my manager... MY DIRECTOR!) comes into the office and, with a face as red as any angry human face I had ever seen tells me the following:
"You are a !*()ing shiftworker. If you don't like your hours you will be replaced. Now leave it alone!"
Apparently, this discussion had kept resurfacing every few years or so, as new staff would enter the department.
The Director would hear about it every time and was sick of it. There had even been a threat of bringing in labour boards and unions to change the company's methods in years gone by. The last thing the Director wanted was some new guy bringing up the past, the battles that were fought and the damage that was done.
My point?
I knew the regulations, he knew the history, everyone had their own opinions and none of it mattered.
Some points are destructive, regardless of the idealogical good that may be inferred.
He and I never got along very well after that, though I understood why he was so angry. Had anyone warned me not to bring up this sore spot and why; that this had been beaten to death before and that some things are better left alone, the whole thing could have been avoided.
About six years down the road, some new guys came in and the Director had left. The problem resurfaced and this time got solved. The guys now get paid what they are supposed to.
So who won? Nobody really. The new guys didn't know their had ever been a serious problem and the old director was long gone.
New and old. People and opinions. Perfect world and real world.
And time keeps marching on.
BTW, beautiful Trout!
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Mr.J. post that first muskie photo for us! It would be nice to see it!Mr.J. wrote:I have a pic of the first Muskie I ever caught and she was a beauty too, remember it was my first muskie ever caught....now I didn't think there was anything wrong with how I handled her...but a year later and many threads later I learned I was incorrect in my handling...ok lesson learned and I will now do a better job.
My point is that we don't always know until we are taught (sp?) otherwise and I will now handle my muskie better not because I was raked thru the coals but because I was taught to be better.
I have learned so much here and so can so many others. Guidance is so important. Be a teacher and we will learn.
Cheers,
TS
TS
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i posted a picture of my, then, biggest walleye to date.
it was over the slot (barely, 26"), and a legal fish. Unfortunately, the rear treble of the manns stretch 20 was lodged in his gills, and while thrashing, he bled all over me, my boat, and everything else in the area.
as you can see by the pic, it wasn't pretty. on anther board, i actually got flamed for keeping a "prime spawning fish" and i couldn't have known if the fish was going to survive or not....you be the judge by this picture.
it was over the slot (barely, 26"), and a legal fish. Unfortunately, the rear treble of the manns stretch 20 was lodged in his gills, and while thrashing, he bled all over me, my boat, and everything else in the area.
as you can see by the pic, it wasn't pretty. on anther board, i actually got flamed for keeping a "prime spawning fish" and i couldn't have known if the fish was going to survive or not....you be the judge by this picture.
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You are right RJ, When releasing a slotted fish that is bleeding, or any bleeding fish for that matter, you hope it survives. Only the birds know for sure!RJ wrote: We had a couple of bleeders at Quinte too.....they seemed to take off with no problem but who knows.....there is always fish mortailty after release...more common than some think...
RJ
Sometimes the topic of these threads changes as they go on, but it's usually all good!
Cheers,
TS
TS