I made a livewell from a rubbermaid bin...with an aerator...worked for me with 6 cats in it at catfest....changed half the water when I thought to do it....no problems....
RJ
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Markus
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I here ya CCB, but I don't agree with your parallel metephor with the quinte walleye. Yes guys abused it. The gill nets and night spearing didn't do the population any good either. I think you're stricking nerves with this example and playing on the scorn side of anglers who remember quinte during the hay days.
The scientist, that you put so much stock in, help determine where fisheries have thier problems, like quinte and impose catch/slot restrictions. If there was a serious bass population problem, I'm sure these same type of restrictions would arrise.
My next question is out of curiousity and is not meant to be sarcastic, but how many bass did mnr stock this year?
I release loads of bass, only because there's better fish to eat around here, but I have my annual feed of them. And I don't see that being the downfall of the bass industry.
The scientist, that you put so much stock in, help determine where fisheries have thier problems, like quinte and impose catch/slot restrictions. If there was a serious bass population problem, I'm sure these same type of restrictions would arrise.
My next question is out of curiousity and is not meant to be sarcastic, but how many bass did mnr stock this year?
I release loads of bass, only because there's better fish to eat around here, but I have my annual feed of them. And I don't see that being the downfall of the bass industry.
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Hey FF
Nice fish! Try the livwell kit, It really work.Catch the fish in the derby release it back and catch him again and win the derby again.
CCB
Just to let everyone know CCB is 100% bang on the info about the Bay of (USE TO be ALOT OF WALLEYES) I use to do the Walleye Derby for 10 years straight back in the 1991.It been about 3 years since i have gone back to Kingston for the walleye open.
There nothing wrong keeping a fish.Let the CAMERA do the talking for you.Release the bigger ones UNLESS it a world record or Canadian Record.
Nice fish! Try the livwell kit, It really work.Catch the fish in the derby release it back and catch him again and win the derby again.
CCB
Just to let everyone know CCB is 100% bang on the info about the Bay of (USE TO be ALOT OF WALLEYES) I use to do the Walleye Derby for 10 years straight back in the 1991.It been about 3 years since i have gone back to Kingston for the walleye open.
There nothing wrong keeping a fish.Let the CAMERA do the talking for you.Release the bigger ones UNLESS it a world record or Canadian Record.
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Cancatchbass
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Sorry Markus:
Markus: Although anglers won't like to hear it, I believe the native spearing in the Bay and all the commercial fishing accounted for a drop in the bucket compared to the numbers of fish legally (and illegally) harvested by the meat fisherman portion of the sports angling community who pounded that fishery, summer and winter, until the fishery collapsed. The MNR realized the collapse was imminent, but political pressure exerted by those making $$$ off the tourism money, tied their hands until it was almost too late.
Markus, as a Maritimer, this should ring a bell with you. The collapse of the cod fishery could have been averted, but again the DFO bowed to political pressure. Other species are following the same path in the Maritimes. Some people never learn.
I wish that the MNR had the resources to track fish populations in any meaningful percentage of our waterways, but that is simply not the case. Many of our waters have not been studied by the ministry since the 60's or even prior to that. Saying that if there were problems with any of our fisheries, the MNR scientists would impose slot limits or close the fisheries assumes there are the resources to track the population declines. Those resources don't exist.
How many bass did the MNR stock this year? Zip. Again, no resources to even do the studies to determine if stocking is a viable option or necessary. I understand that bass populations will eventually recover on their own after being overfished, as long as anglers do their part, by releasing important fish.
Having an annual feed of bass from any waters may not be "the downfall of the bass industry". But - enough feeds of enough quality brood stock over a sufficient period of time in the wrong waters will undoubtedly leave anglers whining about the lack of fish and wishing for the good old days.
CCB
Markus, as a Maritimer, this should ring a bell with you. The collapse of the cod fishery could have been averted, but again the DFO bowed to political pressure. Other species are following the same path in the Maritimes. Some people never learn.
I wish that the MNR had the resources to track fish populations in any meaningful percentage of our waterways, but that is simply not the case. Many of our waters have not been studied by the ministry since the 60's or even prior to that. Saying that if there were problems with any of our fisheries, the MNR scientists would impose slot limits or close the fisheries assumes there are the resources to track the population declines. Those resources don't exist.
How many bass did the MNR stock this year? Zip. Again, no resources to even do the studies to determine if stocking is a viable option or necessary. I understand that bass populations will eventually recover on their own after being overfished, as long as anglers do their part, by releasing important fish.
Having an annual feed of bass from any waters may not be "the downfall of the bass industry". But - enough feeds of enough quality brood stock over a sufficient period of time in the wrong waters will undoubtedly leave anglers whining about the lack of fish and wishing for the good old days.
CCB
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I use an old coleman cooler. I purchased a bilge pump and hooked it up to rubber hose that I perforated. My power supply is my marine battery to which I hook up with alligator clips. An in line switch allows me to turn it on and off when I need it. I also exchange the water periodically. I don't keep fish that often but when I do this set up keeps the fish fresh. Mitch
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Cancatchbass
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wolfe!
You just reduced my five-paragraph rant to a single sentence that captures the essence perfectly! 
CCB
CCB
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Have to agree with Cancatch on this one. We fished Quinte from Napanee during its heyday, and have never seen such fishing before or since. Most of the pickerel we kept were on the small size, mostly because that is what we caught............and we ate em!!
Everything was there: pickerel, pike, bullhead, sheepshead, perch, you name it.
Then came the "abuse"..........overfishing, netting, bla bla bla, and now it is no more the way it usta be.
There may be sufficient bass to warrent an occasional meal, but that fishery can collapse just as quickly, and it takes years to rebuild. So I would err on the side of caution when it comes to keeping fish. Thats my opinion. Everyone, no doubt, has their own, and can fish accordingly. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind or get into an arguement, just my point of view.
Regards: Jigs
Everything was there: pickerel, pike, bullhead, sheepshead, perch, you name it.
Then came the "abuse"..........overfishing, netting, bla bla bla, and now it is no more the way it usta be.
There may be sufficient bass to warrent an occasional meal, but that fishery can collapse just as quickly, and it takes years to rebuild. So I would err on the side of caution when it comes to keeping fish. Thats my opinion. Everyone, no doubt, has their own, and can fish accordingly. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind or get into an arguement, just my point of view.
Regards: Jigs
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Markus
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Very true about the over fishing in the Maritimes. The one thing that the cod and walleye have in common that the bass are exempt from is a commercial fishery. I'm very suprised that you feel this didn't have an impact on the boq??
Without a doubt, overfishing will destroy any fish populatin. boq had a pretty abbusive schedule, 3am-6am gill nets are checked by the commercial boats, 6am-12:00am recreational fishrman pound the bay with a fleet of 14 footers, 12:00am-3:00 natives spear them with spot lights. (these times are not accurrate, just an example) Pretty good chance there's goona be a numbers shortage in the future.
I haven't been everywhere in ON yet, but I haven't seen that abuse on a bass lake.
As for the cut backs, I agee 100% with you. Resources are pretty slim. But I think the trend we are seeing now is the gov making decisions to error on the side of caution and it's actually the fishermen and hunters that get the bad deals now. The spring bear hunt is an example of that.
That being said, I just want to add that yes I do understand that maintaining our fish stocks is everyones responsibiliity and catch and release works. Ottawa muski is a success story, but again a problem was identified and restrictions were imposed.
Have fun on the water, catch and release them all if you'd like, or keep your legal limit if you'd like. It's your choice.
Without a doubt, overfishing will destroy any fish populatin. boq had a pretty abbusive schedule, 3am-6am gill nets are checked by the commercial boats, 6am-12:00am recreational fishrman pound the bay with a fleet of 14 footers, 12:00am-3:00 natives spear them with spot lights. (these times are not accurrate, just an example) Pretty good chance there's goona be a numbers shortage in the future.
I haven't been everywhere in ON yet, but I haven't seen that abuse on a bass lake.
As for the cut backs, I agee 100% with you. Resources are pretty slim. But I think the trend we are seeing now is the gov making decisions to error on the side of caution and it's actually the fishermen and hunters that get the bad deals now. The spring bear hunt is an example of that.
That being said, I just want to add that yes I do understand that maintaining our fish stocks is everyones responsibiliity and catch and release works. Ottawa muski is a success story, but again a problem was identified and restrictions were imposed.
Have fun on the water, catch and release them all if you'd like, or keep your legal limit if you'd like. It's your choice.
No shortage of bass?
Can't agree on that one. I remember what it was like years ago and it sure ain't what it was.
Where I live and fish bass in most waters are under enormous angling pressure now.
I remember what it was like years ago and it sure ain't what it was.
The lake trout and walleye fishing is no longer much to brag about and with the cupboard bare in most cases bass are bearing the brunt of angling pressure now. I'm sure this is the case throughout much of Ontario from the Rideau to the Muskokas.
As far as gill nets and natives are concerned anglers should clean up there own backyard first. I'm not sure if they abide by the law but we did give natives the right to harvest fish. Look on the website for Quinte fishing and check out some of the pics of huge limits of walleyes. It's disgusting. I remember the haul from Quinte in the heyday. Although I'm more inclined to believe the precipitous decline has as much to do with Zebra Mussells as anything else.
Can't agree on that one. I remember what it was like years ago and it sure ain't what it was.
Where I live and fish bass in most waters are under enormous angling pressure now.
I remember what it was like years ago and it sure ain't what it was.
The lake trout and walleye fishing is no longer much to brag about and with the cupboard bare in most cases bass are bearing the brunt of angling pressure now. I'm sure this is the case throughout much of Ontario from the Rideau to the Muskokas.
As far as gill nets and natives are concerned anglers should clean up there own backyard first. I'm not sure if they abide by the law but we did give natives the right to harvest fish. Look on the website for Quinte fishing and check out some of the pics of huge limits of walleyes. It's disgusting. I remember the haul from Quinte in the heyday. Although I'm more inclined to believe the precipitous decline has as much to do with Zebra Mussells as anything else.
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Isn't eating a large fish from many of our waters bad for your health? Don't large fish store more contaminants? I'd gag eating a big fish from the Great lakes. Fileted and cooked an 8 lb walleye from Quinte once that had dark red blotches and a red ropey band of flesh along its lateral line that tasted.....not good. Friend of mine told me just trim that off.....no thanks.
Isn't eating a large fish from many of our waters bad for your health? Don't large fish store more contaminants? I'd gag eating a big fish from the Great lakes. Fileted and cooked an 8 lb walleye from Quinte once that had dark red blotches and a red ropey band of flesh along its lateral line that tasted.....not good. Friend of mine told me just trim that off.....no thanks.
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Amen!
ganman:
I think you bring up an interesting point. Several in fact.
Younger anglers who say there is no shortage of bass often just don't have any basis for comparison.
Is fishing in most of our lakes as good as it was two years ago? Possibly.
Is the fishing as good as it was 10 years ago? No way.
Is the fishing as good as it was 20 years ago? Not even close!
30-40 years ago? Any yahoo with a rod and reel and a red devil or even a stick tied on could limit out on bass on a regular basis on almost any waterway.
The decline has been slow but steady, and if it wasn't for the adoption of catch-and-release by many anglers, I shudder to think of the sorry state we'd be in now.
As for the larger fish containing more contaminants, that fact has been accepted for years. The majority of the contaminants are stored in the fatty tissue around the rib cage and stomach, and in the lateral line. Yes, you can cut these areas out of larger fish, and reduce the crap you're ingesting, but why would you want to?
If the Guide to Eating Ontario Sport Fish says you can safely eat 4 meals of bass from 14-18" from Lake "X", would you do it? Would you feed those four meals to your children?
Studies of Great Lakes commercial fishermen's families have shown all kinds of medical problems that can be traced back to their diet- a lot of fish. Why not eat the smaller specimens and all but eliminate the risk?
CCB- too nasty out to go fishing, so might as well rant!
I think you bring up an interesting point. Several in fact.
Younger anglers who say there is no shortage of bass often just don't have any basis for comparison.
Is fishing in most of our lakes as good as it was two years ago? Possibly.
Is the fishing as good as it was 10 years ago? No way.
Is the fishing as good as it was 20 years ago? Not even close!
30-40 years ago? Any yahoo with a rod and reel and a red devil or even a stick tied on could limit out on bass on a regular basis on almost any waterway.
The decline has been slow but steady, and if it wasn't for the adoption of catch-and-release by many anglers, I shudder to think of the sorry state we'd be in now.
As for the larger fish containing more contaminants, that fact has been accepted for years. The majority of the contaminants are stored in the fatty tissue around the rib cage and stomach, and in the lateral line. Yes, you can cut these areas out of larger fish, and reduce the crap you're ingesting, but why would you want to?
If the Guide to Eating Ontario Sport Fish says you can safely eat 4 meals of bass from 14-18" from Lake "X", would you do it? Would you feed those four meals to your children?
Studies of Great Lakes commercial fishermen's families have shown all kinds of medical problems that can be traced back to their diet- a lot of fish. Why not eat the smaller specimens and all but eliminate the risk?
CCB- too nasty out to go fishing, so might as well rant!