e-Tec vs 4 Stroke

Post by **fishboch** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:52 am

Hi all,

Well like many I am in the market for a new ride and have been shopping around and hopefully I will find something in my price range before the season gets here.

I recently came across the Evinrude E-Tec engines and did some research on them and like anything they have their supporters and their critics but what I would like to hear from some 4 stroke owners are comments on servicing.

Evinrude claims that because the E-Tecs have less complex parts to break down they require less servicing and only need to go in once every 3 years whereas some 4 strokes need servicing every 4 or 6 months.

So I would just like to hear from some owners who have switched from 2 stroke to 4 stroke. Do you find that the 4's are more complex and therefore requiring more trips to the dealer for servicing or more frequent and expensive servicing schedule or are they as some people claim pretty much bullet proof.

Thanks

Post by **RIVERKILLER** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:31 pm

etec no brainer.way better performance,fuel economy,cleanest in the world,self winterize,way cheaper maintenance and they cost less

Post by JC » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:16 pm

Yes I agree, I have done a bit of reading and those e-tecs seem to be the bee's knees

I have never owned a 4 stroke but if I was in the market for a new ride I would try and find an E-tec.
From what I read; all the benefits of the 4 stroke but its a 2 stroke!!:lol:

Post by **mikemicropterus** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:45 am

ETEC and the service window is OK. Have not seen any issues with letting service go to their suggested limit because of the technology

If our government was on the ball they would get BRP to become a car company and put the big 3 to shame......my opinion

Imagine your vehicle getting 20% better gas mileage

and NO OIL CHANGES

and that is possible with an ETEC engine

whether it's a boat or car.

The gas and oil companies would not like that and so wouldn't the government, 20% drop in GST from gas sales

Post by **Geos** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:52 am

I cant speak with a long history of engine use but a few things Id like to mention

#1 servicing every 4 or 6 months for 4stk seems like a cheap marketing ploy or reference early model 4stk's where there are none for etec's yet

#2 You dont see honda and yamaha (and merc) changing there entire line over to 2stk oil injected

#3 yes 2stk are smaller and light but i know guys that want more wieght on the back to make thier boat more stable

#4 very large 100+ etecs that need the onboard computer recalibrated must be sent back to the MFR motor and all (pricey shipping)

#5 I can pick up a 50stk etec and walk away where ill bust a nut lifting a merc 4stk (security is my point)

#6 Etec does not need a oil change, is not that same as it does not need oil to run. The merc 4stk only needs oil change once a year

Post by **lifeisfun** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:35 pm

Well, hate to disappoint you but 60HP Yamaha is lighter than 60HP ETEC
So no "security" for you

You right about the oil and other points but don't tell this to ETEC groupies they will be all over you !

Post by **Geos** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:55 pm

My mistake yamaha is 7lbs lighter then the etec, its is smaller but not lighter looking on there own web site

Post by **BigBait** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:56 pm

I have no doubt that new ETEC is decent outboard
Unfortunately Evinrude's marketing lies are outrages and silly.
NO ETEC for me ...

Post by **RIVERKILLER** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:09 pm

BigBait wrote:I have no doubt that new ETEC is decent outboard
Unfortunately Evinrude's marketing lies are outrages and silly.
NO ETEC for me ...

Now that is funny

You have to be kidding right ? Now tell me why Mercury went out and bought every aluminum boat company ...... oh yeah because they knew Evinrude had the better motor so if they by all the aluminum where does Evinrude hang their motors other than fiberglass.And my favorite is the optimax /evinrude comparison that mercury boasts on their website.They compare against the evinrude in the 1800 rpm range because it is the only range they beat them in fuel efficiency,noise,oil consumption blah blah blah.Who here drives their boat in that range.So to say Evinrude's marketing is a lie is just a blatant lie .How about you back that statement up and i will kill every argument you have because it is not even a comparison.Have fun with your black anchor

Post by **BigBait** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:31 pm

You are out of you mind..., no more beer in the sun for you

Where did you get the idea that I have Mercury ?

Post by **Mick** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:54 pm

[quote="RIVERKILLER Now tell me why Mercury went out and bought every aluminum boat company ...... oh yeah because they knew Evinrude had the better motor so if they by all the aluminum where does Evinrude hang their motors other than fiberglass.[/quote]

Mercury is a multi billion dollar global conglomerate....they make and sell marine engines....so do a lot of other companies, none of whom sell as many engines as Mercury.....Marine engine technology turns over pretty quickly.....do you really believe that Mercury made multi billion dollar growth decisions because many people believe that the E-Tec is a better engine? Do you? Seriously? Wouldn't it have been cheaper to simply hire all of the E-Tec engineers? Whaddya figure, maybe 20 guys tops involved in the design of that engine? Give em each a million a year in salary and tell them to make a better engine would of been a lot cheaper, no?

Post by **MLR** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:58 pm

why not just go diesel powered

Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C turbocharged two-stroke diesel engine
http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

Post by **BigBait** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:54 am

MLR wrote:why not just go diesel powered

Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C turbocharged two-stroke diesel engine
http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

Because Evinrude would start bragging that ETEC is lighter

Post by **lifeisfun** » Thu May 07, 2009 2:03 pm

http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/r ... 009023.pdf

Post by **F7Firecat** » Sat May 16, 2009 6:19 pm

I recently bought a Pro V with a 150 Verado on it.

I dont have a lot of seat time but...........this motor is one sweet machine.

Let me make this clear BEFORE I BOUGHT MY PROV I DID NOT WANT A MERCURY MOTOR WHATSOEVER! Made my skin crawl thinking of a black hunk of junk on the back of nmy new boat.

I had my heart set on a Alumacraft with a 150 ETEC. Well Alumacraft let me down at the boat show, therefore no ETEC because of the Mercury domination in other boats which is total BS.

Found a Pro V with a 150 Verado and took the plunge, and I am happier than a pig in sheet!

Like I said my seat time is limited to half a dozen times out but so far so I love it, The thing has got some JAM. The smartcraft......well that is just amazing, trolls down to 650 rpms with the touch of buttion, no tweaking the throttle just press and enjoy.

Maintenance cost?? Who cares.....if your gonna play your gonna pay nothing is cheap anymore. Oil change once a year and your good to go.

Bryan

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