Calabogie Trout Stream Report!!

[cccp]

In a country I grew up, nobody speaks about trout out loud. I believe thats why streams in 30km out of a town (1 million population) still produce decent brownies (up to 4lb) and arctic grayling (up to 1.5lb). despite the fact, that people usually eat EVERYTHING they catch. just nobody knows about it. there are no pathes along the river and this place is still wild treasure. in order to fish for trout, you have to find that river. and i honestly can't say what is more exciting. tricking and then fighting a big one, or the first one, from new river, you have found. no offence, just an opinion.

[troutnmuskiehunter]

Hmmmm....sounds like an interesting mystery the MNR could shed some light on. Since brookies are the only native trout, the bows and browns must have been stocked, yet there is no evidence that any rivers up in the Calabogie region have been stocked with bows and only two bodies of water are stocked with browns.

Interesting post....It's no mystery and there's lots of evidence that Bows and Browns have been stocked in a "certain creek/river" (that's a hint ) for many, many years in that area. I'm not so sure of stating that it's in the Calabogie Region, but it is in that general area. My buddies and I have fished it in the past with great success....you just have to know what part of this "river/creek" the fish were stocked in as they seem to hold up in that general location. This "river/creek" is more than 16 miles long and passes through crown land as well as private property, so beware guys about trespassing on someone's land!!

[DropShotr]

Congrats on your little gem of a stream.
I grew up a trout fisherman in south central Pennsylvania. Although it's been too long since I have fished streams, I understand your excitement.
I always had two groups of streams. One group I took people to, the other group I went alone and never spoke of.
I would like to get back to Clarks above the dam, and fish the east & west branches of the Rattling around Lykens......but wait.....I just remembered upstate Pa..........

Welcome to Fish-Hawk cccp

DrpoShot'r

[Fishboy]

Todd,

You are right, recent stocking lists don't provide much info of rainbows and browns in many local creeks. Go back a few years and you'll find the evidence.

I'm with cccp on this one, the less said about trout streams on the internet, the better.

[katch moore]

In a country I grew up, nobody speaks about trout out loud. I believe thats why streams in 30km out of a town (1 million population) still produce decent brownies (up to 4lb) and arctic grayling (up to 1.5lb). despite the fact, that people usually eat EVERYTHING they catch. just nobody knows about it. there are no pathes along the river and this place is still wild treasure. in order to fish for trout, you have to find that river. and i honestly can't say what is more exciting. tricking and then fighting a big one, or the first one, from new river, you have found. no offence, just an opinion.

this is going back years!! but my uncle once told me about a certain lake in the calabogie area that had been stocked with Grayling.

so he wasn't crazy!!!

[Jimmy_1]

Yes but its in Calabogie.....

Even for me in Carleton Place its still a trek!
Most people may know now....but some won`t.
If someone shows me a spot, I am VERY reluctant to divulge it to other people. Its out of respect for the person kind enough to show me.

I mean what kind of A-hole goes out with someone and then turns around and tells the world where their honeyhole is? I`m not implying anyone here has done that....but its a jackass thing to do.

When people I don`t know from Adam ask me where I shot that turkey or caught a fish etc..I always have the same answer....

Turkey: In the head.
Fish: In the mouth

I don`t mind fishing with new people and learning new areas (showing my spots and learning of thiers). But I am not going to turn around and tell 50-60 friends where it is, who in turn will tell their friends etc.

I wanna be able to fish a good, little known area like the next guy.
This keeps us all happy! and if we minimize the amount of fish we keep or even release them all then we`re ensuring continual years of more and bigger fish.....

J

[almontefisher]

Now while drinking my coffee this morning I thought of something ( there goes my one thought of the day )...If this creek/river is stocked with trout does it matter if trout guys know about it. Here is my thought....Other than die hard trout guys who know about the population decline and lack of stocking, will you really find a bass,pike musky guy trompping through the bush to try and catch some small trout out of a stream. I may be wrong here but I can not see that. And the trout guys should be able to respect this treasure and not destroy it. Not saying to give us the spot or anything cause that is silly but who destroys these gems if trout guys know the impacts of over fishing??? Is it all from poachers???

[katch moore]

alot of people out there thinks the dicline in trout populations is due to over harvesting/ poaching. That's the vibe i get from others. but what about POLUTION does that effect trout?? from farmers' run-off from there fields to a kid who throws out his pooched smoke.

i'm not saying over fishing doesn't happen, but the whole polution thing is shadowed some times.

[Jimmy_1]

That`s what peeves me about the Mad. Damn farmers cows crapping in the water right where the spawning beds are!

Braeside/Mcnab should fine these people. Its gross!

[Tip-up]

Matt, I think everyone is a little confused about the new peice of trout holding water you found...That's a good thing though right There are a few who seem a little pee pee off...why? We know....The region has hundreds of lakes, many with small creeks and streams that run right off of the lake. I bet there are a lot more small gems like the one you found. In the four years I have been targeting trout in the hills, I have yet to see another fisherman out there, only when we were ice fishing. I know, the flyfishers just love us icefisherman ....even though we go through triple the hassle to do the same thing they want to. I think you just stumbled upon someone elses find .
Missing the point, you got out fishing and caught some beauty trout. I know, you always have the photo's to prove it Can't wait for the weekend..brookies, browns or rainbows, it's going to be tough

Thanks for the report!

[cccp]

I believe, that decline in trout population is due to the fact that many cold streams have been converted into warm water rivers. No natural reproduction and trout is left to struggle to compete with bass. So my opinion is that MNR should not only stock the certain river with fingerlings, but maintain certain procedures in that particular area so that fish could spawn naturaly (lets say one or two trucks of small stones into the river will do) So farmers cows is not really an issue. I mean, owners should be fined, but trout will survive. And point of my first post was that finding trout holding river yourself would pay off. Overfishing. Lets imagine situation. 400 stocked in a stream each year. Half of it wouldn't make it. Half of what is left will be eated by bass and pike. Do we still have that many trout in river by the end of the year?

Anyway nice to meet you all here.
And hope to see you on water. Ottawa river maybe

[Todd B.]

Talking about declining trout populations is only pertinant to those bodies of water supporting wild brookies. All of the stocked lakes/rivers are done so on a put/take basis. Unlike BC where they have developed trophy lakes that have a strick catch and release policy, here in Ontario they expect the majority of stocked trout to be caught each season. When you look at the stocking numbers for the various lakes, it's easy to see how even a small number of catch and keep anglers can impact the trout population on a stocked body of water if they're keeping there limit each time out.

While I'm not against catch and keep, having something like the BC trophy lakes would be nice, but it would require more work by the MNR as well as more oversight by the COs in terms of enforcement of catch and release policies, bait bans, etc.

[Paddler]

They don't match up??? Well that is no good then... so you do need to find that one guy with summer teeth and ask him where it is then Or just take KM out fishing for the day

Summer teeth....summer there and some aren't

[katch moore]

That`s what peeves me about the Mad. Damn farmers cows crapping in the water right where the spawning beds are!

Braeside/Mcnab should fine these people. Its gross!

it's crazy eh! i've seen it on a river west of ottawa that has brownies in it!

if you guys want cold stream that support trout. take a drive 45 minutes north of ottawa in the gatineau hills you'll find a bunch of them.

most of our land has been converted to agriculture fields and all that "deforestation" has robbed the streams of what they need. the trees to create cover and keep those little streams nice and chilly.

anyways like i said if you wanna pay the 52$ this year(price went down from last year) get a quebec licence and go check out what they got over there. trout is the king of those waters over there.

[Fishboy]

You are correct about stream degradation caused by agriculture and pollution. Add increasingly warmer weather and lower than average precipitation, and you have a real problem for streams supporting trout

That being said, catch & keep can finish off whatever trout survive in a fragile stream.