In the fridge, the cooler, and on the stringer.

[Leakyboot]

It's on page 7 of the general regs and in bold type:
"Remember that all fish kept (in a livewell, on a stringer, etc) and not immediately released count towards your daily catch and possession limit"

Thanks Saskie,

What a braindead location for such a vital piece of info. Any intelligent person would have included this line under the rules section dealing with catch and possession limits. Instead they put it in with tips on releasing fish?

There is nothing else in this section I, and virtually everyone else, didn't already know. So, I didn't look there. Your tax dollars at work.

Given this info, I would have to agree then that culling after, in this case six Bass, is illegal.

thanks,

Leakyboot

[Todd B.]

I recall watching the coverage of one bass tournament (not sure which one) where it was a 5 fish limit but they were not permitted to cull any fish. It made for an interesting tournament as the bite only so so. If they released smaller fish in hopes of landing bigger ones they risked fishing the day short fish. Definitely requires more skill and strategy for the fishermen

Todd

[Duck Gunner]

Hey Todd B...

I am with you on that one.
One way livewells. The fish go in but don't come out until the weigh-in.
Would definitely make it more challenging...
Would also reduce the numberof bass being re-located around the waterbody...

Big Sim...

Thanks for the follow-up. I was just curious. Reasonable and probable cause to conduct a search can be tricky. Not so much a vehicle but especially a residence.
CO's definitely need the authority to be able to conduct on the spot searches/seizures if they feel it is warranted. I don't look at it as giving up our rights and freedoms because if you are not doing anything wrong, you've got nothing to hide. And the most you stand to lose is a bit of time. Remember if you are co-operative, respectful and helpful with the officer, he is going to treat you with the same respect. It is a very rare instance where somebody gets the rubber glove treatment when they're being courteous. Usually, it is as a result of wrong doing or being an a$$hole.

Hey MB...

Don't sweat the small stuff...
Just have a fish fry for a couple of folks and digest the evidence.

For me, a similar situation is when I am duck hunting and through wild luck I knock down two ducks with one shot (this has happened once). Both ending up to be Black Ducks. (Daily Limit is one.) Now I have asked COs this question, what do I do the the second Black? 99% of the folks asked said give it to amother hunter who doesn't have a Black in his bag yet.
I think that unless you have 50 or 60 lbs of fillets in your freezer, you really don't have to worry too much. It's not the guy with a couple extra they're after, it's the guy with 30, 40 or more, that they're after.


DG.

[Cancatchbass]

So, let's say someone goes fishing in the morning and puts three huge bass in the livewell for, say, photo purposes (the fish are better off in the livewell while the camera is being readied). The fish are then released.

That afternoon he/she/it goes fishing again, this time for supper. He brings home four small bass for a meal for his family.

He/she/it has broken the law?

In the case of tournaments, the two anglers would be allowed to have a total of up to 12 different bass in their livewell during the day (although most tournament rules forbid having more than 5 while under power). This would mean, would it not, that they could cull SEVEN times throughout the day, n'est pas? LEGALLY, I mean.

Fish that are smaller than the five in the livewell are normally immediately released and not placed in the livewell. If we took a poll of the tourney anglers on this site, I'm sure the instances of culling seven times during tournaments is not too common.

CCB

[Big Dawg]

Re Markus"s post July 25 2005 Husky Jerks Thread
Had a great weekend at Charleston.Although Muskiemagnet and I boated
around 40 Lakers, the biggest I was able to muster was 25 inches.That
will fill my Laker category for now....I'll cull them all out this fall at the
Niagra Bar. Markus

Let's see now.

2 guys, 40 Lakers on Charleston, probably none at home in the freezer,
and culling is illegal.YOU DA MAN

Either get off the tournament guys, delete this post or obtain Sainthood
Markus.

Big Dawg
(the tournament guy)

[nighttroller]

Wow what a long but interestting post. Not sure were to start but I do have some facts from the MNR around culling and daily possesion limits. First I am a tournament angler and culling according to the MNR (I called and asked the question) is technically illegal but not enforced. However, once a fish is put in the livewell it is considered in your possession even if you realease it later that day. In a team bass tournament you can cull 6 times and then by law you must stop fishing because you have reached your limit. In addition after culling 5 times one angler must stop fishing because one of you has caught atleast 6 fish already. Obviously this would be very difficult to prove as you will only have 6 fish in your livewell. I am surprised that Bacon didn't weigh in on this discussion as we were stopped on big Rideau along with PENG. We had 5 lakers in the livewell and the MNR officer asked who caught what. We told him 2 were mine and 2 were Bacons and 1 was PENG's. He then asked Bacon and I what we were fishing for??? He told us we were not allowed to fish for lake trout the rest of the day. They went around the corner and we could see they were watching us from a distance to make sure BAcon and I stopped fishing. Take the easy example of a person living by them self. If I lived by myself and I had 2 lake trout in the freezer, I would not be allowed to fishuntil I consumed 1 of them. Another interesting example the MNR gave me is in the walleye derby the opening weekend at Quinte. If you weigh in a fish over 25" you can not weigh in another one or posses another one on that day as your limit is 1 fish over 25". If you have kids under 18 they are entitled to a daily possesion limit as is anyone 18 or over in your household.

[Markus]

Re Markus"s post July 25 2005 Husky Jerks Thread
Had a great weekend at Charleston.Although Muskiemagnet and I boated
around 40 Lakers, the biggest I was able to muster was 25 inches.That
will fill my Laker category for now....I'll cull them all out this fall at the
Niagra Bar. Markus

Let's see now.

2 guys, 40 Lakers on Charleston, probably none at home in the freezer,
and culling is illegal.YOU DA MAN

Either get off the tournament guys, delete this post or obtain Sainthood
Markus.

Big Dawg
(the tournament guy)

Thanks for chimimg in Big Dawg. MM and I live released 99% of our fish. None made it to the livewell. We kept a couple for the campfire. I have none in my freezer. When I refered to "culling" the fish, it was in reference to my "virtual" derby team.

Lord, I get hammered for keeping a feed of fish and now I get flamed for letting them all go.

[Gravelguy4]

Re Markus"s post July 25 2005 Husky Jerks Thread
Had a great weekend at Charleston.Although Muskiemagnet and I boated
around 40 Lakers, the biggest I was able to muster was 25 inches.That
will fill my Laker category for now....I'll cull them all out this fall at the
Niagra Bar. Markus

Let's see now.

2 guys, 40 Lakers on Charleston, probably none at home in the freezer,
and culling is illegal.YOU DA MAN

Either get off the tournament guys, delete this post or obtain Sainthood
Markus.

Big Dawg
(the tournament guy)

Thanks for chimimg in Big Dawg. MM and I live released 99% of our fish. None made it to the livewell. We kept a couple for the campfire. I have none in my freezer. When I refered to "culling" the fish, it was in reference to my "virtual" derby team.

Lord, I get hammered for keeping a feed of fish and now I get flamed for letting them all go.

are you sure there isn't 40 fish in your bathtub waiting for you to cull out the smallest?? it'd be cool to see. a pain to shower in though.

This is a good thread, lots of info.
And here i was hating the tournament guys for catching more fish than me on "my" lake now i have so many reasons.

someday i hope to be a tourny guy (need decent boat) so i should shut up now.

Take care everyone,
Keith

[saskie]

So, let's say someone goes fishing in the morning and puts three huge bass in the livewell for, say, photo purposes (the fish are better off in the livewell while the camera is being readied). The fish are then released.

That afternoon he/she/it goes fishing again, this time for supper. He brings home four small bass for a meal for his family.

He/she/it has broken the law?

In the case of tournaments, the two anglers would be allowed to have a total of up to 12 different bass in their livewell during the day (although most tournament rules forbid having more than 5 while under power). This would mean, would it not, that they could cull SEVEN times throughout the day, n'est pas? LEGALLY, I mean.

Fish that are smaller than the five in the livewell are normally immediately released and not placed in the livewell. If we took a poll of the tourney anglers on this site, I'm sure the instances of culling seven times during tournaments is not too common.

CCB

Case #1: Yes - they would be 1 over limit.

Case #2: As soon as 12 bass had been in the livewell, they would no longer be allowed to keep any more bass

Case #3: I believe most tourney's require anglers to abide 100% by the regs or be DQ'd

As for the lake trout incident, not withstanding what the CO at the scene said, unless there was some special case for the lake in question the regs very clearly state that you don't have to stop fishing after reaching your catch limit, you may continue fishing but must immediately release all fish caught after that point.
(Catch limit = number of fish allowed to be caught and kept in a single day;
Possession limit = number of fish allowed to have in your possession inlcuding the ones in your freezer at home)

These are the fishing regs ladies and gentlemen. We don't get to pick and choose which ones we follow.

[steve-hamilton]

after reading this whole thread, and killing almost an hour at work, my conclusion is Big Dawg should get off his high horse, and apolagise to markus, as its obviously warrented.