ecologicale desaster,,,,,,,,,,?

[joco]

HI ALL

HI ALL MORE BAD NEWS'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''


there is a full page article in the montreal newspaper frome yesterday and there was a full special on the french chanel on tv last night about fish dying like crazzy on the lake champlain,,,,,,,,,,


they are towsends and towsend,,,,,,,,,,,,,mabe in the 100 000 dead fish all dead and they are all on the beatch all over the place,,,,,,,,,,,,all kind,,,,,

walleye,,,,,,,,,,,perch ,,crappy,,,,,,,,bass,,,,,minnows,,,,,white fish,,,,,,,

they show this on tv last night the beatch was just full off dead fish,,,,,
its on the lake champlain,,,,(venise-enquebec),,,,,,,,



whats going on here,,,,,,,,,,,,dead musky on the st laurence,,,,,,,dead drums and bass in B.o.Q....dead pike on the stlaurence in a othere region,,,,

so fish are dying all over the place,,,,,,,,,and no answer,,,,,,




this is a very very bad ecological desaster,,,,,,,,,,its gone to take some time to recover frome this,,,,,,,,,,,,if ever,,,,,,,,,


lets hope for the best,,,,,,,,,,,,


joco

[crash]

That does not sound good. It seems to be happening in many places.

[trapperdirk]

Dang Joco . That is very bad news to hear . I haven't heard anything like that going on in my particular area as of yet and I hope it doesn't happen either but this is bad news for us all . Thanks for keeping us up to date bud .

TD

[Graembo]

iv seen it all the time...seems every other year its a different species of fish...one year walleye.....next year sheephead.....next year carp....silver bass....etc

just mother nature i guess


anyone ever seen catfish go thru this cycle??...that seems to be the one species I can not remember ever seeing wash up ( and there are TONS of them in the Bay)

G

[Michael]

just mother nature i guess

G

Hmmmm...that would be a guess Graembo. Such events may have natural or unnatural causes. That's why all fish die-offs should be investigated.

Michael

[MichaelVandenberg]

Temperature changes really effect fish. Going from spring temp to 30-40 degree C and than back to spring temps can't be good. The water temp on the Rideau was almost 80 degree last week...I bet this week it has drop to 70 or cooler...will find out on Sunday.

Mike

[canoedude]

I think the latest is that some sort of algae bloom (faciliated, in part, by components of run-off) may have been cause for the die-off.

If you Google it, you'll see that this problem is not new to Champlain.

Canoedude.

[Mikey]

joco..what paper was the article in? I was on Champlain (Alburg launch) last week and didn't see any floaters....


P.S. I'm framing jocos post as I type this!

[fishmaster]

I also saw a strange type of kill this spring on Muskrat Lake. We were there in the early spring trying for perch and crappies and there was a huge amonut of dead snails floating everywhere. I don't mean a few here and there, I'm talking thousands and thousands. We also saw a dead turtle floating in the same area. This is kind of scary because both of these species feed on the bottom and I'm worried there is something bad running into that lake. I don't eat any fish from there but I would hate to see a great fishery like Muskrat experience a more serious kill.

[Scumking]

Joco,

I just saw the report on the local news and the die-off was nothing short of huge .The shore was littered with dead fish of all sorts and the report was mentioning some sort of poisoning.

First it was Quinte with large Walleye and sheepshead then the St Lawrence with CCB's report on Muskie and now lake Champlain.Hope to head out to Lake St Francis on Sunday hopefully things are normal there.


Ron

[Legend]

This is a very serious thread and I can't for the life of me understand why I'm laughing so hard.

I hope they do some toxicology on those dead fish... I smell a rat.

Legend

[joco]

HI MICKEY


IT was in the journal de montreal off thursday juin16 page 8,,,,,,,,,,,

and was on t,v,,,,,,,,,,,thursday night,,,,,,on rds or radio canada ,,,,,,,

just a big bad dream..............i hope,,,,,,,,,,


joco

[Scumking]

Joco,


The paper had the stpry today and the die off was due to the radical water temperature change from the cold spell in May to the sudden heat wave in June.Fishing the St Lawrence form week to week we noticed a change of close to 10 degrees.

Mike in his previous post hit the nail on the head.Not sure if this was the cause of the Muskie die off.



Ron

[picanoc]

hi everyone i am new to fish-hawk this is a great site and i am happy to have joined.I have concerns about hydro dams while it may not be the cause of this disaster i am certain the operating practices of utilities are a cause of elevated temperatures.Older dams discharge water from the top of rivers where the warmer water is .When too much water is flowing during the summer months for the turbines to handle the dams are opened from the top down to regulate water levels.I have fished in some parts of the states the dam owners are forced to discharge from the bottom where the water is colder and are responsible for regulating temperature downstream even if it means reduction of prodution.There are may fishing clubs that keep close eyes on temperature and force government to enforce established laws and regulations.Where i live and fish i have witnessed drastic level fluctuations from week to week the concerns of the utilities are based on levels and production .The st lawerence seaway is expensive to dredge for ship traffic so the green light is given to utilities on the ottawa for production at the cost of tributaries draining northern lands.