definition of immediate release.

[Jimmy_1]

This is pointless....

Seriously I doubt you'd be fined for taking a quick pic....

Now...if you were standing on the bow of your boat, with 4lb+ smallie thrust above you like Excalibur and making a spectacle of it....maybe.....

But more than likely you have a better boat with more gas than the MNR does (Thanks McGuinty!) so no worries.

(That was a joke before the Bible Thumpers on here get their panties all bunched up)

[DropShotr]

I would not hand over my camera to a CO etc

They can check my gun, my licenses, my tacklebox etc....but my camera is really none of their business...

Yes you would. They can, they will.

Didn't happen to me. But I know some lads that were moose hunting with some locals they shouldn't have been with and got stopped by CO's on their way out with a moose. The CO's took a movie camera......evidence.

DS

[troutnmuskiehunter]

I would not hand over my camera to a CO etc

They can check my gun, my licenses, my tacklebox etc....but my camera is really none of their business...

You have no choice Jimmy but to hand it over to them or get cuffed and get a free ride to a holding center.....

Same as if they knock on your door and want to check your freezer......they CAN DO SO without a warrant.....they have more authority than Police Officers....

[MLR]

I would not hand over my camera to a CO etc

They can check my gun, my licenses, my tacklebox etc....but my camera is really none of their business...

You have no choice Jimmy but to hand it over to them or get cuffed and get a free ride to a holding center.....

Same as if they knock on your door and want to check your freezer......they CAN DO SO without a warrant.....they have more authority than Police Officers....

and thats why you will some times see OPP and CO's together in a boat, the OPP can't demand to look in your cooler for alcohol, but the CO can ask to look in it for fish.

The CO's have more search power.

[JZ]

I'm in agreement with Bobber on this one.

The NY DEC regulations are clear on immediate release.

Catch and release means catching and immediately releasing the caught fish without harm. Measuring, weighing and photographing of the fish are permitted as long as the fish is not removed from the water for an extended period or handled in a manner that could cause it harm. Fish may not be placed in a bucket, tub, livewell, on a string or any other holding device.

The MNR regulations unfortunately do not provide clear definitions, however from the section on "TIPS ON LIVE RELEASE OF FISH", they discuss photographs before the immediate release of fish. As previously discussed, it you're catching multiple OOS fish you're going to get tagged with targeting OOS fish.

That is the problem, the wording is not clear, I wish it was worded the same as the regulations you quoted. I think common sense would dictate a quick photo would be ok. (the fact that you practice CPR should be evidence enough that you take care of the resource) However a CO having a bad day could fine you based on the wording in the ont regulations for taking a picture. Having to pay a fine would suck but I would be more insulted with the accusation that I was fishing illegally.

[MLR]

After checking webster's dictionary, I found that I was wrong, no picture time allowed in immediate release.

Straight from Webster's online dictionary
Main Entry: 1im·me·di·ate·ly
Pronunciation: \i-ˈmē-dē-ət-lē also -ˈmē-dit-, British often -ˈmē-jit-\
Function: adverb
Date: 15th century
1 : in direct connection or relation : directly <the> <the>
2 : without interval of time : straightway <I'll make that call immediately>

[Pepe]

LOL - cmon, be realistic. Trust me, if I catch a beauty fish of some kind out of season while fishing for another fish in season, believe me I will be taking pictures and carefully release for another day.

Some guys have to get off their podiums and stop preaching down. Big difference in targetting and incidental catches.

Phew ............... thanks for the venting ....................

P.S. - DARWIN would be laughing at people who are concerned over trivial issues as this.

[MLR]

Actually just thought of a better way to think of the words "immediately release"

If someone clamped onto your testicles with a pair of vise grips.

Would you prefer time for the Kodak moment, or would you prefer an immediate release?

If you are all for the Kodak moment, go to Bobber's thread from a while back requesting input on changes or improvements to fishing regulations and ask that "immediate release" be changed to "after taking pictures"

[stclairhound]

Had this conversation with a CO. It will become a matter of discretion and will depend on what he observes. My advice would be to cooperate fully, and answer any questions politely. No attitude. JMHO

[RJ]

Do a search on here....you'll find this ridiculous topic every year.... .....and yep...without fail....someone posts the dictionary definition!...

I do find it ironic that Superdads "open water fishing" report has 587 views and NOONE has said anything about his OOS walleye pic.....if it was a bass or a muskie he'd have been crucified by now..............

I digress.....do as you wish fellas. I do.

RJ

[Fishing 24/7]

Actually just thought of a better way to think of the words "immediately release"

If someone clamped onto your testicles with a pair of vise grips.

Would you prefer time for the Kodak moment, or would you prefer an immediate release?

If you are all for the Kodak moment, go to Bobber's thread from a while back requesting input on changes or improvements to fishing regulations and ask that "immediate release" be changed to "after taking pictures"

NOW THATS some funny stuff man.


i have a picture of a OOS fish in my van thats how i love that fish!


SOOO BIG.


but was released safely.

[Bass Addict]

Has there ever been a case where someone has been charged with taking a pic of an OOS fish ...I think not..........


I'm not refering to targetting OOS fish and then taking a pic of it...

[Canmoore]

I agree with your post bobber, there are lots of grey areas. I think that taking a picture of an accidental OOS species, or a species outside of a legal size, is ok..however, some people should NOT be allowed to take pictures.

You know who you are Those people who stuff there camera down in the bottom of there tackle bags. Than must go on a treasure hunt around there bag to find it.

Those people who than realize there batteries are dead, and the replacements are once again, in the bottom of the tackle bag.

Those people who have owned a camera for years, but all of a sudden forget how to operate there camera...

These are the people who should not be allowed to take pictures of OOS or fish outside of legal size limits..

Because all the while, you are bumbling around getting your camera ready, a sunfish could have moved in and ravaged a nest of eggs, or the fish could be stressed out or hurt..

If you are going to take a picture..BE PREPARED!!! Dont take a million years for this seamingly simple task!

[Bass Addict]

, some people should NOT be allowed to take pictures.: Those people who stuff there camera down in the bottom of there tackle bags. Than must go on a treasure hunt around there bag to find it.

Those people who than realize there batteries are dead, and the replacements are once again, in the bottom of the tackle bag.

Those people who have owned a camera for years, but all of a sudden forget how to operate there camera...

These are the people who should not be allowed to take pictures of OOS or fish outside of legal size limits..

Because all the while, you are bumbling around getting your camera ready, a sunfish could have moved in and ravaged a nest of eggs, or the fish could be stressed out or hurt..

If you are going to take a picture..BE PREPARED!!! Dont take a million years for this seamingly simple task!

Right on....

[slop]

Do a search on here....you'll find this ridiculous topic every year.... .....and yep...without fail....someone posts the dictionary definition!...

I do find it ironic that Superdads "open water fishing" report has 587 views and NOONE has said anything about his OOS walleye pic.....if it was a bass or a muskie he'd have been crucified by now..............

I digress.....do as you wish fellas. I do.

RJ

I marked this topic on the calender last year and it's come up a little early this year. Must be global warming/climate change.

The stance on OOS season photo opps is still discretionary in law enforcement. The grey area. Superdad obviously violated the rules set forth by the administrators of this site by posting a photo of an out of season fish.

I'm sure Superdad will remove said photo and continue to provide us all with his fishing knowledge and expertise.