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Loose Screws????

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:34 pm
by 1lastcast
Hey guys.

I need some help in fixing my lose seat mount bases?

Im not sure why a boat builder would fasten seat mounts with only wood screws? I think already now the answer :roll:

Problem is the existing stainless wood screws are only fastened to the boats plywood flooring. They seem to come lose in a few hours of use. I know the best fix would be use bolts. In a perfect world that would work. But I have now way to get to the underside of each screw to mount a nut in its place? Im thinking maybe some type of fastner used for hollow walls? Anyone else run into this problem? Im looking for any suggestions.

BTW - Boat is a 07' Legend xcal.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:22 pm
by 1lastcast
Anyone use TOGGLER fastners before? I think this is the best way to go?

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:39 pm
by Badger Shark
Legends are terrible for screws coming loose, either by wave action or rough roads. I had a severe problem with all of the screws on the boat coming up and even with loctite they would not stay screwed. I finally got fed up with the customer service or lace there of and I made the dealer take it back.

Not sure why they do that or what you can do to prevent it from happenening again.
Good luck

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:09 am
by 1lastcast
I noticed most everything else on the boat is bolted?

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:56 pm
by Badger Shark
Thats a significant improvement over the one I had. It was 6 years ago and it was a v-151 sport

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:52 pm
by Erie-Eyes
While I haven't had any problems with loose screws on my seat bases, floor screws, seat screws, window screws, and just about anyplace else all seem to vibrate loose after a season of pounding water. I usually spend a full day when my boat comes out of storage each spring doing a thorough cleaning and retightening every screw I can find.

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:48 am
by Piker
Yeah, Snaptoggle will do the trick. You probably need the 1/4X20 size, which you can get without the bolts so you can use your own stainless steel hardware.

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:22 pm
by spinner
If there is no way at all of getting under and you don't try toggle bolts, try this stuff as it is great for many types of fixes. I know I've used it for loose screws over the years as well as other fixes and works great ---- not sure about a seat base but never know. Should find it at Cdn Tire

http://www.starbrite.com/productdetail. ... at=Epoxies

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:22 pm
by Wallyboss
A lot of boats on the river last weekend, that had loose nuts behind the wheel!!!!

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:52 pm
by CNs
Wallyboss wrote:A lot of boats on the river last weekend, that had loose nuts behind the wheel!!!!


Not just the weekend Dan!

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:42 pm
by 1lastcast
Thanks guys. I just placed a order here in ktown from Fastners. 12 stainless steel snap toggler bolts for just over $55. I will post a few photos of the install and report back with the results.

I did notice that the bow and stern seat bases are bolted :lol:

http://www.toggler.com/products/snaptoggle/overview.php

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:31 pm
by 1lastcast
I think this should fix the loose seat issue for good. A few photos of the simple install.

The only problem I had with this system is that the foam under the floor was preventing the toggle bolts from seating flat on the underside of the floor. I was able to remove some of the foam.

Total cost for 12 toggle bolts in Stainless steel was just over $80. Purchased as FASTENAL.

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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:15 am
by Bitsmith2k
thats how i did mine.. they work brilliantly..

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:54 am
by Piker
An excellent repair done in a very workmanlike fashion. Really good instructional photography as well. Congratulations.