A little soft water from the big city

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A little soft water from the big city

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I hit a pay-to-fish trout place this week. The weather was about 12 degrees celcius and the winds were fairly moderate with some pretty good gusts at times. The place I went to is called Ozenji Fishing Spot. It's about a 20 minute bus ride from my neighbourhood in Yokohama.

Ozenji is two large and two small artificial ponds that are stocked with several kinds of trout. The fees are about $25 for 3 hours and one large pond is dedicated to flyfishing. The water is very murky with visibility to about 12" down. Here's a sample of what you see when you fish there:

The "Lodge"....

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The Fly Fishing Pond

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In the photos there are fewer people than when I arrived at around 11:30 AM. I was using my 4-wt with floating line and a 4X, 9 foot tapered learder with 5X tippet. After having been on a 9-wt most of the time, it was a little weird getting into the rhythm of a light flyrod. I also had to deal with the fact that I ended up in a lousy spot - facing the wind and obstacles on the back cast.

Undaunted, I tied on my trusty trout popper to see if they'd take a surface fly. Twenty minutes later, I switched to a prince and got my first fish of the day, a fat 12" rainbow. I fished the prince for another twenty minutes and hooked a couple more fish of abut the same size. The wind played havoc with casting at times, the gusts were very strong, and often it was best to just wait before attempting to cast. Nymphs were on the menu as streamers or dries had no effect on the trout.

I noticed that the people who were catching the most fish had upwards of 18 feet of leader and tippet. As well, there was really no action applied to the flies. It was cast out and let the fly sink or drift - the fish that were hungry/stupid enough would take it. Many people were very disciplined casters and several could really boom out line. Having said that, I noticed that most strikes and takes happened within ten feet of the bank.

I ended up fishing two flies at a time and this proved very effective. I landed a very nice fish in the 16" range that was Monday night's dinner:

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I saw a very big fish cruising the shallows - it was a rainbow about 24" long and it would not have anything to do with my flies. Also, this guy below kept swimming past me all day. This fish is an iwana, a trout species native to Japan. Iwana are a type of char that looks like a lake trout on the sides and a speckled trout on the back. They have a blunted face with a very low-slung mouth for a trout.

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I chatted briefly with one of the employees who came around to check licences. He told me that evening fishing is very good since the trout tend to go for surface flies. I may give that a try.

Ozenji is not great, but it is close and it satisfies an itch for trout fishing. The alternative is renting a car, driving deep into the mountains, staying in a hotel, and finding a guide who knows the wild waters....

Update on dinner - I filetted the fish and placed the 2 filets on a rack. Squeezed half a lemon on top of them, added 2 heaping teaspoons of crushed garlic, salt & pepper. Kitchens here in Japan have a gas range that includes a grill specifically for fish.....12 minutes under the grill and they were ready. The meat was very pale coloured and relatively tasteless - nothing like the trout we catch back home. I won't keep fish from Ozenji anymore unless they are gill hooked.
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interesting post. Is there a charge per inch above the initial fee to fish theses ponds??
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Gorfman007:
Your entrance fee includes a limit of up to 20 fish. The volume of business they do probably more than covers the cost of stocking. They must stock the ponds at least every week because there doesn't appear to be any shortage of fish.

What you can't see in the photos is the fact that this is smack dab in the middle of an urban area. Just to the right of the main building about 300 meters away was a factory with a tall smokestack billowing out white smoke. A few meters from the entrance to Ozenji are houses, a university, a community centre, a quarry, and so on.

I know of about a dozen of these kinds of places in the Tokyo-Yokohama region. The all have similar fee structures and policies....and they are very busy!

Even when you can get to a natural river or lake, there are usually crowds like openning day on the Lake Ontario tributaries. I live in an urban area (greater Tokyo, Yokohama, and adjoining communities) that covers an area equal to the distance between Ottawa and the island of Montreal. It has the equivalent of 2/3 of Canada's entire population - roughly 20 million people. Sometimes it feels like they all go fishing and they all do it at the same time.....
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Wow must be quite an experience to live in an area of such a concentrtation of people. It sounds almost claustrophobic :shock: :)
I remember one of my first outings in Port Hope near the lake. man it was weird to see so many people in one spot. So i can semi-identify with your description. thanks for the explanation

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wow ... soo different there eh! that is THE MOST ugly lookin rainbow i have ever seen!!! what brings you to japan by the way??
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mattdbz29 wrote:wow ... soo different there eh! that is THE MOST ugly lookin rainbow i have ever seen!!! what brings you to japan by the way??
Most trout, inculding this one, look like that after they're killed...they lose their colour and look a little splotchy.

I'm in Japan because I make far better money as a language teacher here than I can in Canada....the 5% tax rate for language teachers doesn't hurt either. :wink:
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Great post! It's really interesting to see what you're up to in Japan. I guess you've been doing ALOT of Carp fishing! haha.

Nice to see a trout in Japan, even if it was stocked.

Great post!

By the way, you say you make more as a language teacher in Japan, BUT, doesn't the cost of living far outweigh any extra amount you make?

Aren't fresh fruits in Japan 10 times what they cost here? lol....I've heard that a melon in Japan is at least 5$ And in Hong Kong, more than 10....

But I could be mistaken.......Either way it's something interesting to do with your life. You won't forget the times you spent in Japan thats for sure.

Amazing post! 10/10

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FIH,

Nice to see you back on F-H...

The cost of living in Japan varies much like it does in Canada. I used to live in downtown Ottawa and it was about 10% cheaper than here. However, my increased income plus reduced taxes make the difference.

Fishing is way easier, cheaper, and much better in Ottawa. :cry:
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Well it's good the Japan has good cost of living for you and you make good money........

Too bad the fishing is not as good as here.

I guess basically you have alot of Carp Carp and more Carp and then more species of Carp lol........

Is the ocean an option? maybe you could try fishing on piers or docks or something in the ocean? Maybe you'd get some new species or something? I'm not sure about where you live, I assume it's probably quite a hike to the ocean though.......so maybe not really practical

Anyways, thanks for the welcome back! Good to be back actually I missed this place and missed fishing.

I got my fishing licence for this year today, and got some small tackle items and 2 dozen worms. I'm going to hit the Rideau even though the current is really really strong. i'll hit some of these little slow pools and side sections. I'll be shore fishing but hope to catch some bullhead. I'm going to go down at night tonight or tomorow night maybe and fish for bullhead since i dont recall ever catching one......it would be exciting and new for me.

Are these fish edible do you know? or are they too much of a pain to clean with their tough skin and all.......

Hope all is going well in Japan........Take Care :)

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Post by mattdbz29 »

lol... any trout ive caught here in canada doesnt look even remotely close to that!! ive had ones in the cooler for 3-4 days bring them home and there still in the freezer and still look like they just came out of the water, those good ol quebec specks :D are there not any streams that hold trout in the woods???
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yep as i suspected.. got some fresh lakerun bows today... total chrome... definnitly dont look anything like our japanese counterparts.
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I miss fishing trout in the valley....

Mattdbz29 - the fish in the picture came from an artificial pond. The water quality is marginal and they are constantly pumping air to keep the water oxygenated.

"Real" stream or lake fishing for trout is a lot more complicated here in the heavily populated areas of Japan than it is in Ontario. Take the Tokyo-Yokohama region. You have the population of Canada squeezed into an area and most anglers want to fish the same water at the same time on the same days. It can be worse than openning day on some North American waters, but it is a typical day here.

One river can be managed by dozens of individual, private group. Each management group charges a licensing fee for use of its own stretch of the river. Fees range from $10 to $50 depending on the attractiveness of the water. So, to fish just one river can cost you hundreds of dollars. On top of that, you have a time limit of 3 to 6 hours depending on the river.

It gets worse......just driving to these places can be an ordeal. I once spent 2 hours in a car to cover a distance of less than 5 kilometers. I arrived at the lake with only 2 hours of daylight left. Due to regulations, I had no choice but to rent a row boat, but it had to be returned within 1.5 hours.....no fish and a lot of frustration. I have switched to fishing for local carp since they are everywhere and there are no regulations or fees.

I'll be heading to northern Japan next Saturday - Akita Prefecture. Same area as Tokyo-Yokohama, but under 2 million people. It has actual nature with wild trout streams and almost no fees. Highest numbers of iwana trout and yamame trout per kilometer of river in all of Japan. They have sea-run rainbows and salmon to boot.
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