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My outdoor card expired, can I use my QC licese to fish?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:30 pm
by Doeun_k
I was wondering ,
My outdoor card expired and was wondering if i can use my QC license to fish a petrie island because it is part off the ottawa river?
Fishing License
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:41 pm
by Bait&Fate
My understanding is: Shared waterway / provincial border recognises the license of adjacent provinces provided both provinces have the same license. For example you cannot use an Ontario conservation license on the Quebec side of the Ottawa because Quebec does not have the same license. So long as you have a full Ontario fishing license you are good to go. By the same token a legitimate Quebec license gives you the right to fish on the Ottawa.
That's my understanding of the rules ..

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:32 pm
by steve2112
Hi Guys
I think you have to follow the regulations of the licence. i.e. an ontario licence on the quebec side may only use two lines as oppossed to the 5 lines for a quebec licence. Ice fishing of course.
Steve
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:59 pm
by Bait&Fate
steve2112 wrote:Hi Guys
I think you have to follow the regulations of the licence. i.e. an ontario licence on the quebec side may only use two lines as oppossed to the 5 lines for a quebec licence. Ice fishing of course.
Steve
Agreed ..

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:32 pm
by Wallyboss
This has been ironed out many times before.
The Ottawa river rules are either license Que/Ont is okay (except you cannot fish the Quebec side with a Conservation License)
You follow the rules depending on the side you fish on.
Fish the Quebec side -----Quebec Rules.
Fish Ontario side -------Ontario rules.
So the answer is if you fish on the quebec side of the river with an Ontario licnese you can have 5 lines in the water during the winter.
And also it doesn't matter what side of the river you access the river from. Ie. You can get on the ice in Wendover ont. and cross over to the Quebec side on the river and follow the Quebec rules.
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:27 pm
by Bait&Fate
Wallyboss wrote:This has been ironed out many times before.
The Ottawa river rules are either license Que/Ont is okay (except you cannot fish the Quebec side with a Conservation License)
You follow the rules depending on the side you fish on.
Fish the Quebec side -----Quebec Rules.
Fish Ontario side -------Ontario rules.
So the answer is if you fish on the quebec side of the river with an Ontario licnese you can have 5 lines in the water during the winter.
And also it doesn't matter what side of the river you access the river from. Ie. You can get on the ice in Wendover ont. and cross over to the Quebec side on the river and follow the Quebec rules.
Thanks for the clarification but to answer the original question ... A expired ontario outdoors card is neither here nor there so long as one has a valid fishing licence for Ontario or Quebec for the current year .. right? And as you correctly point out relative provincial licence rules apply to whichever side of the border you fish. Or do you need a current outdoors card for Ontario being a resident of Ontario? I was under the impression you didn't need an outdoors card to obtain a fishing licence for Ontario unless you plan to hunt small game and of course deer etc. also ....

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:01 pm
by fishwhisperer
Yeah they say no lies, this is from the MNR, you can fish the Ottawa River with a Quebec license..
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/Le ... 65335.html
Licences for Provincial Waters
Straight from the governments mouth..
Also covers all the Ontario-Manitoba Boundary waters.
hope the sites helpful.
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:16 pm
by Doeun_k
Thanks everyone,
I guess i know what im doing tommrow, I do have my hunting license but i am too broke to afford it because my tutions are due on jan 31st but i still have my valid QC license..............So im going to try petrie tommrow....
Chen K
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:53 pm
by fiiish
F&C wrote:
Thanks for the clarification but to answer the original question ... An expired ontario outdoors card is neither here nor there so long as one has a valid fishing licence for Ontario or Quebec for the current year .. right? And as you correctly point out relative licence rules apply to which side of the border you fish. Or do you need a current outdoors card for Ontario being a resident of Ontario? I was under the impression you didn't need an outdoors card to obtain a fishing licence for Ontario unless you plan to hunt small game and of course deer etc. also ....

Fast Facts about Ontario Outdoors Cards and Fishing Licences...
A licence to fish in Ontario consists of an Outdoors Card plus a fishing licence tag (either affixed to the card or accompanying the card).
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/Le ... 64832.html
For Ontario residents, a complete and valid licence to fish consists of:
* an Outdoors Card plus a valid fishing licence tag
OR
* an Ontario Resident Temporary Fishing Licence and Outdoors Card and Application.
An Outdoors Card alone is NOT a fishing licence.
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/Le ... 65301.html
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:29 pm
by Bait&Fate
fiiish wrote:F&C wrote:
Thanks for the clarification but to answer the original question ... An expired ontario outdoors card is neither here nor there so long as one has a valid fishing licence for Ontario or Quebec for the current year .. right? And as you correctly point out relative licence rules apply to which side of the border you fish. Or do you need a current outdoors card for Ontario being a resident of Ontario? I was under the impression you didn't need an outdoors card to obtain a fishing licence for Ontario unless you plan to hunt small game and of course deer etc. also ....

Fast Facts about Ontario Outdoors Cards and Fishing Licences...
A licence to fish in Ontario consists of an Outdoors Card plus a fishing licence tag (either affixed to the card or accompanying the card).
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/Le ... 64832.html
For Ontario residents, a complete and valid licence to fish consists of:
* an Outdoors Card plus a valid fishing licence tag
OR
* an Ontario Resident Temporary Fishing Licence and Outdoors Card and Application.
An Outdoors Card alone is NOT a fishing licence.
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/Le ... 65301.html
Well I conceed and stand corrected ... So "Joe Blow" or "Jane Doe" of Ontario requires a outdoors card in addition to a fishing licence to legaly enjoy the recreation of fishing of specified species. ....... Struth. Another reason to flee this province. No wonder my wallet is getting fatter .. And it isn't because of the money in it!!! It's because of all the bloody licenses and cards I am required to have to be legal ........
Math wise: The amount of money you have in your wallet is inversely proportional to the licences /cards you are required to have!!

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:44 am
by Wallyboss
You need a Quebec resident license to be able to fish the Ottawa, not a Quebec Non-resident license. So if you are an Ontario resident and you do not have an Ontario fishing license you cannot use your Que. Non-resident fishing license.
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:36 am
by Todd B.
Wallyboss wrote:You need a Quebec resident license to be able to fish the Ottawa, not a Quebec Non-resident license. So if you are an Ontario resident and you do not have an Ontario fishing license you cannot use your Que. Non-resident fishing license.
I'm pretty sure that this is a typographical oversight in the Ontario regs as it would prohibit non-residents (i.e. Americans, etc) from fishing on the Ottawa, which is clearly not their intention. If anyone has questions regarding regulations that do not seem to make much sense, a simple call/email to the MNR is all it takes to clear things up.
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:00 am
by The_Captain!
Todd B. wrote:Wallyboss wrote:You need a Quebec resident license to be able to fish the Ottawa, not a Quebec Non-resident license. So if you are an Ontario resident and you do not have an Ontario fishing license you cannot use your Que. Non-resident fishing license.
I'm pretty sure that this is a typographical oversight in the Ontario regs as it would prohibit non-residents (i.e. Americans, etc) from fishing on the Ottawa, which is clearly not their intention. If anyone has questions regarding regulations that do not seem to make much sense, a simple call/email to the MNR is all it takes to clear things up.
I've always waited an hour on hold everytime I've called the MNR

so I'm posting before calling...
Are you quite sure about this being an oversight? Reason being that I stupidly let my card expire and it takes a few weeks for it be delivered but I do have a Quebec Non-resident's license and would like to fish the Ottawa before then.
Ottawa Police (not MNR) have been checking licenses down at Petrie this week (buddy fined $165) and I'm not too confident in their knowledge of this matter; they might not accept a Quebec license.
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:57 pm
by Doeun_k
Man....TOO MANY LAWS......
license
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:58 am
by boogie
My buddy is a CO and tells me that you NEED an Ontario resident license if you're from Ontario to fish, the non resident from Quebec will get you a fine.