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walleyes are running
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:37 pm
by boogie
The walleye run started last night on Hooples Creek in Ingleside. We were there last night as part of the Lunker Club, some of the natives were there also spearing. We asked them to try and spear the males only, nothing else we could do. The ministry will be there Saturday night collecting eggs and spawn for one of the hatchery.
Boogie
Poisson On !
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:20 pm
by Chevy Champagne
i cant stand spear fishing i think its totaly wrong

like you just stab fish it has no skill involved poor things

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:46 pm
by joco
its supose to be for themself and then they go and sell it on black market.............
not all off them are like that but there some.
joco
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:37 pm
by Wood&Water
YES ....they SELL IT
Right know in PORT FRANKS they are netting and selling for 8 dollers lb. Season there got changed from April to May because of spaun run in river.... THEY DO NOT MAKE IT TO RIVER.......NETS!!!!!!!!!!It has been going on since ice out......NOT RIGHT!! IDont get me started on this cause it is very wrong and is happening where i live......
This is all bad .....

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:03 pm
by Andy_L
guys...you're entitled to your opinion on this....but be very careful how you word things. Suggestions of violent actions will NOT be tolerated in any way...I have edited and deleted posts accordingly
Andy
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:14 pm
by bardern
I think the natives do it just becuse they can and like to make a point, but are they takes large numbers? If not I wouldn't get upset. Isn't the spawning bed on private property, can spearing be carried out there?
I have seen just as bad ice fishing on the St.Lawrence. There is a spot where it is possible to catch literally 100 walleye a day and some were. The CO's and OPP moved in to shut the poachers down but they started bring kids and seniors to continue the spree.
Don't think the Natives are the only ones abusing the system guys.
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:35 pm
by Wood&Water
Andy......
You can delete posts of people speecking THERE opinion so now i ask yours..... This is a yes or no question....No politics and mumbo jumbo..
Do you think it is right what is happening in my last post about what is going on in lake Huron....
Brian
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:27 pm
by Andy_L
brian...I have not deleted ANY post of someones opinion that didn't include a suggestion to commit a CRIME. There is no exception to that...if anyone makes suggestions of that sort i will delete it, and the possibility of their account being suspended defintely exists.
If i choose to offer my opinion on a subject, have no worries, I will. But it will be just THAT, my opinion, and it would not suggest to people that they do something illegal as the post i DID delete did.
If you want to discuss this more, by all means send me a PM and I'll be happy to discuss why the post was deleted
Cheers
Andy
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:41 pm
by jcorrigan
Just to chime in...
Ok, allow the spearfishing...yep...ALLOW it...BUT: the natives should have to be using hand made spears...nothing they picked up at cdn tire or anything else...a sharpened stick or a sharp piece of stone on the end tied on with vines NO ROPE, NO STRING...only what the forefathers would have used.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:27 pm
by Wood&Water
There is the mumbo jumbo i mentioned...No answers or opinions anywhere in that................ thanks anyway......I see what is happening in Lake Huron does not need to be talked about..

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:52 pm
by creeky
this is a good topic. here on da reedooo I can say that in 2005 natives were taking lots of fish but trying to avoid big females. 2006, where are the big females? 2007, can't say. 2008. Just no fish. Where once we saw hundreds, this year with the weird weather we are seeing 5. Seriously, five or six fish is the max we have recorded.
It can't be about us and them. it's about the fishery. If yer upset about local poaching or native harvest get involved. Talk to land owners about restricting access. Show up with your family and stand in front of the best harvesting spots. Talk to the mnr and get a dialogue going about conservation.
hey bardern, can you pm about the spot on the larry where i can ice fish a limit
great post boogie man
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:12 pm
by Wood&Water
Creeky...............Thanks for an HONEST opinion on what is happening to our fishery.......Brian.. Some people here like to side step and talk around things..
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:04 pm
by Andy_L
sighhh....Wood? discuss the issue all you like...its a good topic. just DON'T anyone make suggestions that are illegal...thats all
my opinion isn't relevent and as a moderator here I choose to remain impartial on the subect.
by all means you can PM me if you like....I'm not angry in any way shape or form...just doing my job is all
Cheers
Andy
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:37 pm
by wiggler
jcorrigan wrote:Just to chime in...
Ok, allow the spearfishing...yep...ALLOW it...BUT: the natives should have to be using hand made spears...nothing they picked up at cdn tire or anything else...a sharpened stick or a sharp piece of stone on the end tied on with vines NO ROPE, NO STRING...only what the forefathers would have used.
I absolutely agree with this statement. The spearing will happen no matter how much opposition there is but if they did like their forefathers then it would even the playing field.
I remember when the Napanee river was opened up for spearing. There was a big event where the elders pulled the eggs from the females and fertilized them. They stirred them with I think an eagles feather so as not to damage them. I thought that was an awesome idea. I guess it was just for publicity because to my knowledge it was done only that year.
With the higher than normal and faster flowing water this year I would think it'd be a lot tougher to stand in the current. That might be a plus for the fish.
Here's hoping for a good spawn!!
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:41 pm
by Eli
I could be wrong, but I thought Natives were now only allowed to carry out these types of harvests on reservations, not on public land...again, I could be wrong about this.