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I've heard rumor that there is decent walleye fishing around the Hogs Back area. I've never even thought of fishing it myself but heard this from someone. Anyone able to confirm this or is it another case of myth busted?

Kpin,

Yes there are some nice eyes at Hogs Back, but it does get a lot of fishing pressure.

Todd

[quote="Kpin"]I've heard rumor that there is decent walleye fishing around the Hogs Back area. [/quote]

And Muskie too I'm told by divers. You should be aware that, according to a fella I know, there is no fishing from one side of the river. I have never been able to confirm this. But, this lad tells me he was charged for fishing below the falls a number of years back. I recall asking him at the time how it was possible if there was no signage and no mention in the regs. This guy is known to consume excessive amounts of barley and hops. So, I wouldn't stake my life on the quality of this information.

You might want to call Kemptville MNR and ask just to be safe. 613-258-8204. I do know that the MNR vehicle spends more time at Hog's Back than anywhere else for miles around. Seems every other time I drive by, which is admittedly infrequent, there is an MNR pickup in the area. That's pretty much the only time I see the Ministry locally. Never been inspected or asked to produce a license in my life.

later,

Leakyboot

MNR does not enforce access to the falls, its the NCC. The MNR could not care less about that, its not their mandate.

If you fish the local waterways in waters patrolled by the NCC, you are far more likely to be checked by the NCC than the MNR. The NCC usually run around in their trucks looking for shore fishermen and then demand licences, ect. on the spot.

No one is allowed (fishermen included) on the east bank of the falls at hogs back. I believe that rule was put in to stop the diving that occurred there.

Yep - Walleye, musky and nice smallmouth too.

You can catch walleye right at the base of the falls in the pool. I can also confirm that there are NCC no tresspassing signs on the east side of the river which is the very steep side. This is to prevent swimming and other accidents (since it can be fairly dangerous on the rocks from that side). You are allowed to fish from the west side no problem however its harder to reach right up into the base of the falls from there. When low water comes arounds, the base is the sweet spot so I often take the risk of a fine.

I've seen musky swimming in the pool also. Big 4 footers but only early (pre-season)... When the water drops later in the summer they disappear downstream. I've caught a musky there, but it was as we say "key-chain" size... cute but only 3 inches long.

My best luck has been on the "no tresspass" side (I take the 90 dollar risk )... Jigs and twister is the ticket. Toss into fast water and let drift down. Also get nice Smallmouth this way later in summer.

If you wander downstream (be carefull) you can wade or fish from shore and there are walleye in some of the pools. I've caught 14-16 inchers in there all the way from the falls to the train bridge near carleton university.
Good luck

Txs for the responses guys. It'd be high pressure fishing for sure I'd imagine. Although I'm sure the possible fine prob keeps many away. I usually try to get out of the city to fish just for that reason. But having decent spot(s) in the city, would be a bonus, thus avoiding hrs of travel.

My favourite lunch time spot. I work close to HB and so I like to take advantage of this spot at least twice at week. Yes there is some nice fish but takes a lot of outgoing to land something decent )

/p

Drove by there Saturday morning with boat in tow. I noticed the gate was open to the boat launch so in I drive, put boat in water and head up past Mooneys Bay Beach.The scenery this time of day was little to be found.We went right up to Black's Rapids and tested many spots. Final score was 1-16pike 2walleye one went 20 inches the other went 22 inches just shy of 5 lbs. My net man also missed my other eye close to 21 inches. Guess I'll have to give him more practise. The return trip down past Mooney's bay Beach was alright, scenery would score at least 8 out of 10.This launch was free . Hope it stays this way for summer Got off the water just before it started to rain and home in 5 minutes corner Baseline and Fisher. Fresh walleye fillets for supper.

[quote="topraider"]The NCC usually run around in their trucks looking for shore fishermen and then demand licences, ect. on the spot. [/quote]

When did the NCC get authority to enforce MNR rules? Enforcing trespassing rules on private property is one thing. Enforcing provincial laws is quite another. Shouldn't they be armed like CO's and the police? Shouldn't that be mentioned in the regs?

As to the MNR's responsibility, I never claimed that they controlled access - only that they are frequently there. Although, I can see how one might infer that meaning from my post. It would be impossible to confuse the Ministry of Natural Resources vehicles with those of the NCC.

Like I said in my earlier post, I questioned the validity of the information at the time and ever since. He insisted he was charged for the fishing and not for the trespassing. He also claimed there was no signage back then .. five or six years back.


later,

Leakyboot

LB, you are 110% correct on the info recieved bout the non posting from 5 to 6 yrs back!The signs as far as I remember were only implented in the 5 year ago area.I have been stopped(By MNR) not NCC for fishing that side b4 the signs were posted.

The west side in my persoinal opinion, gets more fishing preasure, but better fishing aswell.Easier to land, and make presentation.

Great eye, skie, and smallie's, but over recent years the moss hasd taken over aswell as presure by fisherman, so I suggest trying below the rapids closer to the Carelton U area.


F.F

Pulled three muskies out a there in 1/2 hour (2 in 2 casts) on opener three years ago, and a 23" walleye. All the muskies measured between 39-42 inches, but were extremley scared up, one of them was even missing half a gill plate

Pretty good fishin for being in the city. I always took the risk and fished on the no fishing side, better to fish from that side and you will likley be the only on there

Hey Leakyboot, was the guy who got charged initials LD? I know someone who went to court over it several years ago (LD) and LOST.

I remember fishing there late one night (years ago) when the water was high and these teens were diving off the east side ledges, opposite from me. Well one jumps a little too far out and gets caught in the current and starts wailing for help, his head bobbing up and down in the roiling water - do any of his buddies come to the rescue? Nope. He evententualy finds his footing in the rocks below the pool, on the west side, and makes his way back past me, like a wet puppy who just pooped his pants.

I used to fish there all the time. Caught my first muskie there too. That was many years ago, I haven't fished it much in the last several years. It was common to see kids intentially targetting OOS muskie there almost every night, I don't know if that still goes on, maybe the NCC put a stop to it. The walleye fishing back then was Ok, it certainly wasn't consistent, a 23" would be a big one, definitely the exception. There were far better places nearby for walleye. The smallmouth fishing was a waste of time for me, lots of runts. I targetted carp the last years I fished there (before Shimano said it was OK to fish for them).

[quote="topraider"]Hey Leakyboot, was the guy who got charged initials LD? I know someone who went to court over it several years ago (LD) and LOST. [/quote]

This fella was a J.M., Topraider. I always felt that, if the facts as he represented them were true, then the Crown had no case. Afterall, how would anyone of us feel if we were charged for fishing somewhere we had been fishing for years with no warning either in the form of signage or in the provincial regs. It is hard to imagine losing such a fight. But then, I never do refer to our courts as the "justice" system. That's a topic for a more political forum, I suppose.

I am still puzzled by the NCC's role in all of this. Are these glorified 'groundskeepers' overstepping their authority by acting as enforcement? Surely they have no legal right to ask for I.D. of any kind let alone a fishing license. At best, I would think they have the authority to ask you to leave or to report you to Crime Stoppers just like you and I or any other citizen might do. As always, I stand to be corrected.

cheers,

Leakyboot

Leakyboot, I had the same questions as you, the local MNR came in one evening to speak to our club, we posed the question, and the answer is yes, they can enforce the provincial regulations, i.e. demand a licence.

I have mixed feelings about this, the NCC lady who checked me out one evening came across as somewhat officious, not the sort of person you would want interacting with the public. I have been checked by the MNR many times over the years, they were all friendly, courteous and professional.

On the other hand, places like hogsback are ( or were) frequented by folks who regularily break the rules, if the NCC can put a stop to it, great.

Back to the fishing lol...

Where below black rapids did you get these walleye and on what if you dont mind me asking