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Swamp-Donkey
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Hey Swamp Donkey, if I was reading a little more anger in your response than you intended I must apoligize. In regards to your unregistered guns, I couldn't agree with you more....I am no fan of the gun registry either 
Unfortunately, we will have to agree to disagree on the issue of private ownership of lakes obtained by people buying up all of the land surrounding a lake. Given some time, you might find that much of our lake frontage on prime fishing lakes is either foreign owned or owned by the rich and those of us who live here, and our future generations, will be able to sit back and say "How the hell did that happen and why didn't anyone do anything about it?". It is sort of like your right to have your guns without being forced by the government to register them. I want to have ongoing access for myself and my children to Canada's lakes without being blocked out by laws that say our waters can be purchased and turned into private property.
Unfortunately, we will have to agree to disagree on the issue of private ownership of lakes obtained by people buying up all of the land surrounding a lake. Given some time, you might find that much of our lake frontage on prime fishing lakes is either foreign owned or owned by the rich and those of us who live here, and our future generations, will be able to sit back and say "How the hell did that happen and why didn't anyone do anything about it?". It is sort of like your right to have your guns without being forced by the government to register them. I want to have ongoing access for myself and my children to Canada's lakes without being blocked out by laws that say our waters can be purchased and turned into private property.-
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So we shouldn't be able to purcase private property? We should not be able own land, and do what we want with it? All land is owned by the state/province. Sounds a little like "communism" to me. No way, this is a nation built on capitalism and living the Canadian dream. If a guy wants to work hard, and become financially well off enough to purchace a parcel of land that contains a lake, or surrouds a lake, and he chooses to make it private. That is his God-given right and his lawful right to do so.
There will always be fishing opportunities for everyone.
There will always be fishing opportunities for everyone.
Like I said Swamp-Donkey....we will have to agree to disagree 
By the way, I did not say that we couldn't own property only that we shouldn't own the lake (the water) through denying public access. 
I only want to ensure that there is a public access point kept available on all lakes. I understand your reasons for disagreeing with me but like I said, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree
By the way, I did not say that we couldn't own property only that we shouldn't own the lake (the water) through denying public access. I only want to ensure that there is a public access point kept available on all lakes. I understand your reasons for disagreeing with me but like I said, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree -
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Well I think this discussion started to go in the wrong direction, but was handled very well in the end.
SD, I commend you for the way upon which you handled the responses to your post. Even though there are strong oppinions about lake privacy, on both sides of the fence, which probably could have been made in a different manner, this one could very well have gone bad, but instead has turned into a good discussion with a little humour and camraderie. I hope it stays that way, and thanks all for keeping it civil in the end.
Crusty, I unfortunately don't know anything about Bennett Lake. I have not personally fished there, however have been told that it has been a good body of water for fishing in the past, but have no new information on how it may be now.
As for the lake being a private lake, I understand where Swamp Donkey is coming from, and why he's so pationate about it, however I believe the land which is owned by the cottagers around the lake is private, but the lake itself is not. The owners of the land around the lake are entitled to deny public access through their private property, for whatever reason they choose, as they own that property and tresspassing is illegal.
If there's a public launch on the body of water, then the only thing the land owners around the body of water are entitled to, is to petition the municipality to have the public launch removed. If they win, the only way the general public can get onto the water is through someone's property. If only 1 property owner out of everyone on the lake allows people to launch from their property, then the discussion becomes that between that property owner, and the rest of the owners on the body of water. The boaters should be removed from the discussion at this time. If they lose the petition, then they don't have any right to deny access to the body of water through this means.
Bottom line I think, is that if there is a legal means to access a body of water, then anyone has the right to be on that body of water. The only way you can legally prevent this, is to cut off all access to the lake through public means, and have all the private property owners around that body of water agree to not permit public access. It's that simple I think.
Crusty, although your original thread has been hijacked, sorry about that, this is a good discussion. I'd be interested in knowing what is really allowed
SD, I commend you for the way upon which you handled the responses to your post. Even though there are strong oppinions about lake privacy, on both sides of the fence, which probably could have been made in a different manner, this one could very well have gone bad, but instead has turned into a good discussion with a little humour and camraderie. I hope it stays that way, and thanks all for keeping it civil in the end.
Crusty, I unfortunately don't know anything about Bennett Lake. I have not personally fished there, however have been told that it has been a good body of water for fishing in the past, but have no new information on how it may be now.
As for the lake being a private lake, I understand where Swamp Donkey is coming from, and why he's so pationate about it, however I believe the land which is owned by the cottagers around the lake is private, but the lake itself is not. The owners of the land around the lake are entitled to deny public access through their private property, for whatever reason they choose, as they own that property and tresspassing is illegal.
If there's a public launch on the body of water, then the only thing the land owners around the body of water are entitled to, is to petition the municipality to have the public launch removed. If they win, the only way the general public can get onto the water is through someone's property. If only 1 property owner out of everyone on the lake allows people to launch from their property, then the discussion becomes that between that property owner, and the rest of the owners on the body of water. The boaters should be removed from the discussion at this time. If they lose the petition, then they don't have any right to deny access to the body of water through this means.
Bottom line I think, is that if there is a legal means to access a body of water, then anyone has the right to be on that body of water. The only way you can legally prevent this, is to cut off all access to the lake through public means, and have all the private property owners around that body of water agree to not permit public access. It's that simple I think.
Crusty, although your original thread has been hijacked, sorry about that, this is a good discussion. I'd be interested in knowing what is really allowed
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