Is this a Big Large Mouth Bass ??

[Bass Addict]

OK Class, time for another lesson. Nice fish but don't hold it vertical by the jaw. IT HURTS THE FISH!

What about this type of hold.....does this hurt the fish ??

[Fishing 24/7]

OK Class, time for another lesson. Nice fish but don't hold it vertical by the jaw. IT HURTS THE FISH!

What about this type of hold.....does this hurt the fish ??

everything seems legit to me .

[TheMaverick]

everything seems legit to me .

I simply admire the expressionism movement and bewildering array in Craig's visage....befuddlement at it's best.

As for the assassination of that bass, let's call it the "Zapruder Phenomenon" Paul always seem's to capture amazing pictures, talk about being in the right place at the right time.

I'll let the slanted horizon slide on this one Paul....but next time please apply yourself

[bobfly]

Some of the fish shown in this thread are likely 20+ years old. Too bad that is as old as they will likely get. Keep it up Bravados. Soon there won't be any big ones left. Holding the fish vertically by the jaw injures the jaw structure and re-arranges the internal organs. Time left out of the water while someone fumbles with the camera and then take too many pictures increases the stress levels. Slime removal. It all adds up.

All fish that are being released should be held horizontally with two hands and out of the water no more than seven seconds, less if the water is on the warm side for that species. I've brought this up several times on this board and will continue to do so until it gets into some thick skulls. No science here, just common sense.

[cprince]

Some of the fish shown in this thread are likely 20+ years old. Too bad that is as old as they will likely get. Keep it up Bravados. Soon there won't be any big ones left. Holding the fish vertically by the jaw injures the jaw structure and re-arranges the internal organs. Time left out of the water while someone fumbles with the camera and then take too many pictures increases the stress levels. Slime removal. It all adds up.

All fish that are being released should be held horizontally with two hands and out of the water no more than seven seconds, less if the water is on the warm side for that species. I've brought this up several times on this board and will continue to do so until it gets into some thick skulls. No science here, just common sense.

- Maintain respect please bobfly, 24/7 and Maverick.

- I also ask the same of all posters who agree or are diametrically opposed to whatever way of thinking.

- Just because we do not do something the way you would does not a thick skull make.

- Your opinion is just that; Your opinion and you are entitled to it.

If I want to treat my supper like it was the Queen of England or an Amsterdam Madame... it is my prerogative. I welcome your input as long as it is respectful. Just because it is not what you would do, does not make it wrong.

If any of us were truly concerned for the well being of fish, we would not be jamming steel hooks into their mouths... mentally scarring them for life by turning their food into a torture device. They may never want to eat again for fear of being fondled lovingly by a concerned LOVER of nature. I know a prominent fish psychiatrist who tells me that fish caught by fly fishers beat their fry due to PTSD.

Its science.



Craig

[bobfly]

My apologies to all the thick skulls out there.

I have to admit to holding fish, notably bass, incorrectly but when it was explained why it shouldn't be done, then I stopped. It is pretty hard to train "old dogs". I know, as I've had a number of older dogs in my time (10 actually!). But you will notice that whereas there may be 5 or 6 registered viewers at any time (likely fixed in their ways), there are often more than 20 lurkers, maybe less fixed. Hey, I'm doing this for myself. I want those fish to flourish, so I can catch them.

Native people will tell you not to "play with your food". If you are going to eat your fish, fine. Bring them in quickly and plunk them on the head. Playing the fish too much with too light a gear, something flyfishers are guilty of more than others, is cruel. Holding them out of the water incorrectly and for too long is torture. The more you think about it, the less inclined one can be to do it at all. I remember my dad telling me that he couldn't fish (and he did a lot of it) if he felt the fish could feel pain in the jaw area. I think a lot of us have this view and don't want to find out otherwise.

BTW, I've never heard of a 'fish psychiatrist". Sounds like a great job.

[ShawnD]

Speaking of Native, I heard two guys up in the park got caught with 5 coolers of walleye, estimate of 100 fish being smuggled and sold later.
Won't be much fish to catch with that going on...

Fishing is fishing, my theory is try not to put dead fish back in the water and honestly even if you do....
The muskrats and turtles get a free meal.
What I do stress is the release of the big girls, the ones who will hatch far more eggs and be able to defend their nest. If you keep the big girls around the fishery will live on.

Also don't take any offense to my comment, I found it odd you would insert an analogy of Native people and how they treat fish. Native or not every single person is some what different..
Native people have their ups and downs just like anybody else.
Sa pas rapport.

[Fishing 24/7]

Some of the fish shown in this thread are likely 20+ years old. Too bad that is as old as they will likely get. Keep it up Bravados. Soon there won't be any big ones left. Holding the fish vertically by the jaw injures the jaw structure and re-arranges the internal organs. Time left out of the water while someone fumbles with the camera and then take too many pictures increases the stress levels. Slime removal. It all adds up.

All fish that are being released should be held horizontally with two hands and out of the water no more than seven seconds, less if the water is on the warm side for that species. I've brought this up several times on this board and will continue to do so until it gets into some thick skulls. No science here, just common sense.

so bobfly...

you CLEARLY do not fish at all?


right ?

well of course you dont fish AT ALL. cause if you would you would tie a wrom on what ? or use what bait ?

iv learnt all my holding position from big jim.

and if theres a proibleme with that then theres a probleme with all of ontario's and outaouais bass fisherman.

because we lernt from the best.

THE BIG GUY!

[bostonwhaler]

Why bring up natives on a fishing site, lol. Why dont we talk about abortion, religion and politics, wait, lets talk about quebexico as well lol

[cprince]

Why bring up natives on a fishing site, lol. Why dont we talk about abortion, religion and politics, wait, lets talk about quebexico as well lol

Make this man a moderator!!!


Craig

[i got worms]

Beauty bigmouth right there!

[bobfly]

There ARE some legitimate "native people" out there......somewhere.

[cprince]

There ARE some legitimate "native people" out there......somewhere.

You see Bobfly..??

This is what I am talking about.

Respect.

This is incredibly disrespectful.

I want to you to be able to express your opinion and convey the knowledge you have acquired over the years on this forum. Dissenting voices are what keep this site interesting. I do believe that your only interest is the well being of our national natural resources.

The problem is you come off more like your intent is to sound so much smarter than every one else belittling everyone else in that attempt.

But in the end, comments like the above quoted, make you sound like an ignorant racist antique. I know you must be better than that.

Please act like it or consider this you final warning.

Craig

[Tip-up]

What about this type of hold.....does this hurt the fish ??

I'd imagine it does...

[cprince]

I'd imagine it does...

He never complained even while I gutted it...

I am VERY humane as I ALWAYS keep all my blades EXTREMELY sharp.

Craig