i don't know about you guys but i have been fishing for most of my life and like i need some fishing courses notttttttttttttttttttttttttt..............i know how to handle fish and make sure they get back to the waters in good shape so would this be like the e-test only people in ottawa would have to do the fishing test and people from arnprior and surrounding areas wouldn't have to comply? we must be just reaching into the bottom of the barrel to come up with a new posting,,,come on people whats next a course on how to put a minnow on your barbless hook !!!
definatly a nottttttttttttttttt,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Hunter's course...Why not Fisherpeople course??
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again wicked responses!!
but everybody is missing the point.
THIS WOULD NOT BE A HOW TO FISH COURSE..... BUT AN EDUCATIONAL COURSE ON FISHING IN ONTARIO. GOING FROM POACHING TO UNPROPERLY HOLDING A MUSKY, OR LETTING IT FLOP ON THE FLOOR OF YOUR BOAT.
YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS SAYING OH DAMN MNR, NO MONEY ALWAYS CUTTING BACK.
WELL BOOYAH! HERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE CAN PUT SOME MONEY BACK.
YOU NEED TO HAVE A FISHING LISCENCE TO FISH AFTER THE AGE OF 18 RIGHT???
AND FOR THOSE WHO THINK THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT A SCHOOL ON HOW TO FISH......WELL YOU'VE MISSED THE BOAT.
EXCEPT FOR PETE.
BUT FOR REAL, YOU GUYS STOP THINKING I'M TALKING ABOUT A HOW TO FISH COURSE. STEP ONE, CAST, STEP TWO, JIG, STEP TRHEE-RETREIVE.... NAH.. GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR YOU KNOW WHERE....
but everybody is missing the point.
THIS WOULD NOT BE A HOW TO FISH COURSE..... BUT AN EDUCATIONAL COURSE ON FISHING IN ONTARIO. GOING FROM POACHING TO UNPROPERLY HOLDING A MUSKY, OR LETTING IT FLOP ON THE FLOOR OF YOUR BOAT.
YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS SAYING OH DAMN MNR, NO MONEY ALWAYS CUTTING BACK.
WELL BOOYAH! HERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE CAN PUT SOME MONEY BACK.
YOU NEED TO HAVE A FISHING LISCENCE TO FISH AFTER THE AGE OF 18 RIGHT???
AND FOR THOSE WHO THINK THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT A SCHOOL ON HOW TO FISH......WELL YOU'VE MISSED THE BOAT.
EXCEPT FOR PETE.
BUT FOR REAL, YOU GUYS STOP THINKING I'M TALKING ABOUT A HOW TO FISH COURSE. STEP ONE, CAST, STEP TWO, JIG, STEP TRHEE-RETREIVE.... NAH.. GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR YOU KNOW WHERE....
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Danomano wrote:i don't know about you guys but i have been fishing for most of my life and like i need some fishing courses notttttttttttttttttttttttttt..............i know how to handle fish and make sure they get back to the waters in good shape so would this be like the e-test only people in ottawa would have to do the fishing test and people from arnprior and surrounding areas wouldn't have to comply? we must be just reaching into the bottom of the barrel to come up with a new posting,,,come on people whats next a course on how to put a minnow on your barbless hook !!!
definatly a nottttttttttttttttt,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
AHAHA SOOO FUNNY.
THAT'S OK, AND YOU ARE NOBODY'S GONNA BASH YOU FOR HAVING AN OPINION.....BUT ATLEAST GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
NEVER SAID IT WAS ONLY FOR OTTAWAN'S, SECONDLY RE-READ IT ALL.
WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS A WAY TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON THE EFFECTS OF OVERFISHING, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE POACH, OR WHEN PEOPLE ALWAYS "TAKE A LIMIT HOME"
THIS IS TO EDUCATE. NOT TO TEACH HOW TO FISH......
AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE WHOLE LISCENCE TO BREED THING.....??
FIRST OFF WE HAVE MORE IMMIGRANTS COMING INTO THE COUNTRY THEN PEOPLE ARE BEING BORN.... SOMEONE SAID A LISCENCE TO BREED COURE???? OFF TOPIC. PLEASE STAY ON TRACK, OR LEAVE!!!
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Re: Terrible Liberal Idea ... Don't give em ideas!
CRP_4321 wrote:First there's the hunting course. (Guns require Respect, I understand)
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what about fish??? don't they deserve respect.?????
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I see no value in this course.
If MNR needs more revenu, increase the cost of outdoors cards and fishing licenses. I pay for a sports lic every time I renew, just to give a bit more $$ to the system.
A fishing course that educates people about the resources they are about to effect is not very necessary IMO. The big diff between hunting and fishing is I have never gone catch and release hunting. When you go hunting, if you are successful, its a perminant decision. And even at the current population of geese, they pale in compairson to the number of fish. I'm not saying fish are unlimited, but the facts are, a lot of fishing is catch and release (I'm sure someone has a stat on that) and we have take & possession limits on fish that are relatively abundant.
Hunting is at the opposite end, and therefore additional steps are required.
If you want to spark a debate, should bow hunting require a special license?
If MNR needs more revenu, increase the cost of outdoors cards and fishing licenses. I pay for a sports lic every time I renew, just to give a bit more $$ to the system.
A fishing course that educates people about the resources they are about to effect is not very necessary IMO. The big diff between hunting and fishing is I have never gone catch and release hunting. When you go hunting, if you are successful, its a perminant decision. And even at the current population of geese, they pale in compairson to the number of fish. I'm not saying fish are unlimited, but the facts are, a lot of fishing is catch and release (I'm sure someone has a stat on that) and we have take & possession limits on fish that are relatively abundant.
Hunting is at the opposite end, and therefore additional steps are required.
If you want to spark a debate, should bow hunting require a special license?
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I take exception to the turkey course being a cash grab....
Not to make enemies here, but in that course you learn how a guy was killed while turkey hunting.
1) The guy killed was wearing white, blue on his neck and was wiping his mouth with a red scarf....
2) The guy who shot him was trying to stalk turkeys.....
Its little things like this that seem common sense to most is not to others.
As for a fishing course....
How would you do that? Seriously?
Not everyone who fishes, fishes for musky.
Also, coming off as a know-all (trying to educate etc) to people who fish once or twice a year can yield you a punch in the head....
Point is most people fishing of a dock are not going to catch AMAZING fish. Yes the odd incidental nickel, musky etc is caught...but not often.
If 38 guys were out after musky last Sunday and only 3 were caught? How many muskies per cast is that?
Also, there are guys who hunt, licensed, who will shoot any deer they see the moment they see it.
I pass on small doe's and spikers. Only once did I shoot a button buck (I had the tag for it) and only then did myself and my wife who was sitting next to me thought it was the doe as it was the biggest of the 3 deer. I felt terrible....
You can educate I guess, but you can't "ethicate" (if that's a word, but you get my point)
Not to make enemies here, but in that course you learn how a guy was killed while turkey hunting.
1) The guy killed was wearing white, blue on his neck and was wiping his mouth with a red scarf....
2) The guy who shot him was trying to stalk turkeys.....
Its little things like this that seem common sense to most is not to others.
As for a fishing course....
How would you do that? Seriously?
Not everyone who fishes, fishes for musky.
Also, coming off as a know-all (trying to educate etc) to people who fish once or twice a year can yield you a punch in the head....
Point is most people fishing of a dock are not going to catch AMAZING fish. Yes the odd incidental nickel, musky etc is caught...but not often.
If 38 guys were out after musky last Sunday and only 3 were caught? How many muskies per cast is that?
Also, there are guys who hunt, licensed, who will shoot any deer they see the moment they see it.
I pass on small doe's and spikers. Only once did I shoot a button buck (I had the tag for it) and only then did myself and my wife who was sitting next to me thought it was the doe as it was the biggest of the 3 deer. I felt terrible....
You can educate I guess, but you can't "ethicate" (if that's a word, but you get my point)
I'd have to agree with Hookup. If the MNR instituted specific handling proceedures for fish in designated C&R zones or large fish (i.e. muskie), the applicable material should be avaliable via the MNR website. Failure to follow the posted procedures could then result in fines (assuming the MNR has the enforcement capability).
On a side note w.r.t. to licence fees; In NY State all money generated through the sale of fishing/hunting licenses are given directely back to the DEC for stocking programs, etc. In Ontario by contrast, this money is added to the province's general revenue. Regardless of how many licenses are sold, the MNR's budget is fixed by the province. If people want to fix one thing it should be to have all license money given back to the MNR for stocking, etc.
On a side note w.r.t. to licence fees; In NY State all money generated through the sale of fishing/hunting licenses are given directely back to the DEC for stocking programs, etc. In Ontario by contrast, this money is added to the province's general revenue. Regardless of how many licenses are sold, the MNR's budget is fixed by the province. If people want to fix one thing it should be to have all license money given back to the MNR for stocking, etc.
"There wouldn't have been any butt kickings if that stupid death ray had worked."
katch moore wrote:
AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE WHOLE LISCENCE TO BREED THING.....??
FIRST OFF WE HAVE MORE IMMIGRANTS COMING INTO THE COUNTRY THEN PEOPLE ARE BEING BORN.... SOMEONE SAID A LISCENCE TO BREED COURE???? OFF TOPIC. PLEASE STAY ON TRACK, OR LEAVE!!!
wo wo wo wo wo.cool the jets eh .. now whose getting off track here... I was trying to add some humour to the thread.....
Yes there are some merrits to having a course for a fishing license... everybody has some opinions on what the content should be..... such as;
Cigarette butts/garbage in a lake/on the ice.
overfishing
fishing out of season
As far as Im concerned, these are all common sense things that should be policed by everybody who fishes and or enjoys the outdoors. Licenses are for making certain that somebody knows the rules for preventing damage to ones life, not for educating one on the ethical/regulatory topics related to a sport. Its pretty difficult to kill somebody while performing the act of fishing. Sure you can do it with your boat.... but thats why theres a boating course.
Todd - Well worded response - TOTAL AGREEMENT on that.Todd B. wrote:If people want to fix one thing it should be to have all license money given back to the MNR for stocking, etc.
OFAH has been pushing for exactly that, and I will continue to support their efforts, rather than yet more government nanny state bureaucracy masquerading this time as a course to save the fish.
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What I am seeing is let's say like turkey...You go get your hunting lic...that is $$$ then if you want to target turkey's it is a course.
Why not for those special species like sturgeon, musky, or other more sensitive fish. I know it would be hard to control because accidental hook ups happen. I know this. But if you are tossing a 12" spinner blade into the water or trolling at 5MPH with these on are you fishing for sun trout??? I hope not. I also know this could not fly as it is too hard to control. But they do it for turkey so why not Musky?? Now also before it is said I know you can not accidentaly shoot a turkey because you see it before shooting it and for fish it is hard to gaurantee that you will not catch something unintentional. Anyway I like this thread cause it makes us think of ways to help our sport out. No matter how you look at it we are slowly loosing our resourses for this past time. Stocking programs have dropped or even stopped for some species...And yes I know this is not true for all lakes. Anyway this was meant to make people think of ways to help out the MNR and fund programs for our future of the sport.
Let's try and keep our cool here and instead of jumping down peoples back come up with an idea that would help. We all have thoughts in our head about this and we sure have ideas that we think of while sitting in the boat waiting for a fish to hit our lines. What ideas do you guys and gals think of to help fund or restore our resourses???
Or do you just not care??
The last statement was not to be rude but a true question. Maybe you do not care what happens or feel that everything will work itself out in the end.
Why not for those special species like sturgeon, musky, or other more sensitive fish. I know it would be hard to control because accidental hook ups happen. I know this. But if you are tossing a 12" spinner blade into the water or trolling at 5MPH with these on are you fishing for sun trout??? I hope not. I also know this could not fly as it is too hard to control. But they do it for turkey so why not Musky?? Now also before it is said I know you can not accidentaly shoot a turkey because you see it before shooting it and for fish it is hard to gaurantee that you will not catch something unintentional. Anyway I like this thread cause it makes us think of ways to help our sport out. No matter how you look at it we are slowly loosing our resourses for this past time. Stocking programs have dropped or even stopped for some species...And yes I know this is not true for all lakes. Anyway this was meant to make people think of ways to help out the MNR and fund programs for our future of the sport.
Let's try and keep our cool here and instead of jumping down peoples back come up with an idea that would help. We all have thoughts in our head about this and we sure have ideas that we think of while sitting in the boat waiting for a fish to hit our lines. What ideas do you guys and gals think of to help fund or restore our resourses???
Or do you just not care??
The last statement was not to be rude but a true question. Maybe you do not care what happens or feel that everything will work itself out in the end.
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no worries!! all i was implying is that we too many people take advantage of the lack of Conservation officers.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!plncrzy wrote:katch moore wrote:
AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE WHOLE LISCENCE TO BREED THING.....??
FIRST OFF WE HAVE MORE IMMIGRANTS COMING INTO THE COUNTRY THEN PEOPLE ARE BEING BORN.... SOMEONE SAID A LISCENCE TO BREED COURE???? OFF TOPIC. PLEASE STAY ON TRACK, OR LEAVE!!!
wo wo wo wo wo.cool the jets eh .. now whose getting off track here... I was trying to add some humour to the thread.....
Yes there are some merrits to having a course for a fishing license... everybody has some opinions on what the content should be..... such as;
Cigarette butts/garbage in a lake/on the ice.
overfishing
fishing out of season
As far as Im concerned, these are all common sense things that should be policed by everybody who fishes and or enjoys the outdoors. Licenses are for making certain that somebody knows the rules for preventing damage to ones life, not for educating one on the ethical/regulatory topics related to a sport. Its pretty difficult to kill somebody while performing the act of fishing. Sure you can do it with your boat.... but thats why theres a boating course.
but todds right! all money should go back entirely to the MNR.
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