Anyone from the Timmins, Ontario area?

Post by **Yannick Loranger** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:11 pm

The KG is still there. Lasalle shut down last year unfortunately. And I think every high school student in New Liskeard crosses the border every other weekend. 13 is the new 16 now.

Post by **JimW** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:35 pm

Great history lesson guys. I actually would like to go up to the International Plowing Match there.

I was actually wondering if anyone on f-h is currently living up there. This year 2 lakes in the Timmins area are open for Aurora Trout (Aug 1 to Oct 15, 2009), so I was starting to do some research.

Anyone want to go on a road trip?

JimW

Post by **Wallyboss** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:02 pm

There is one F-H guy that lives there but I cannot remember his username at the moment. I haven't heard from him in well over a year???

Post by **troutnmuskiehunter** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:33 pm

JimW wrote:Great history lesson guys. I actually would like to go up to the International Plowing Match there.

I was actually wondering if anyone on f-h is currently living up there. This year 2 lakes in the Timmins area are open for Aurora Trout (Aug 1 to Oct 15, 2009), so I was starting to do some research.

Anyone want to go on a road trip?

JimW

I was actually going to pm you before I read this article.....sure is a long way to drive to only be able to catch 1 Aurora trout....THERE IS NO CATCH and RELEASE.....You're only allowed to catch 1 and you have to keep it.....see below:

Angling for Aurora trout was opened on a limited basis on nine of the stocked lakes. Neither of the original two lakes is open to angling. Three lakes are open each year on a three year rotational basis.

The use of live bait is prohibited on these lakes.

The catch and possession limit is one (1) fish for holders of a sport fishing licence and you have to keep the fish. The catch and possession limit is zero (0) fish for holders of a conservation licence. You can not fish on an Aurora Trout lake at all with a conservation licence.

There is no catch-&-release. If you catch an Aurora Trout, you have to keep it and can not fish the rest of the day for trout. To fish the next day, you must eat the Aurora Trout first as you can only have one (1) trout in your possession.
There has been some confusion about NO CATCH & RELEASE. There are additional regulations pertaining to Aurora Trout under the Endangered Species Act. You are allowed to catch one (1) Aurora Trout and you have to keep it. There is no catch-&-release because of the high mortality rate of released fish. We can't have people catch-&-release 50 Aurora Trout in a day only to have half of them die. That would defeat the purpose of having any regulations in the first place. Aurora Trout are a deep-water fish, especially in August, but when brought to the surface, they don't burp out air like a Lake Trout. As a result, their internal organs get bruised or even rupture thus 50% of Aurora Trout would die if released. Also, you are catching them 50 feet deep in 50-degree water and then trying to release them in 85-degree water on the surface. They also suffer from temperature shock.

The following lake will be open for angling from August 1 to October 15 for Aurora trout:

Post by **JimW** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:35 pm

TMH,

I've read that before. I briefly thought about the idea of fishing for them before, then I was reading the April issue of Outdoor Canada which has an article on fishing for them. The author catches 1 10" trout in about a week of trying.

If I decided to go I'd spend some time fishing for other fish as well.

Plus I love long road trips.

Jim

Post by **plncrzy** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:24 pm

JimW wrote:TMH,

I've read that before. I briefly thought about the idea of fishing for them before, then I was reading the April issue of Outdoor Canada which has an article on fishing for them. The author catches 1 10" trout in about a week of trying.

If I decided to go I'd spend some time fishing for other fish as well.

Plus I love long road trips.

Jim

I am interested in a road trip.... I have an old beater 16' lund with 25hp yamaha (good sonar though) and I have a tent trailer... so if somebody can pull the tent trailer, and I pull the boat, we can have a pretty cheap fishing trip up north!

Post by **fishead-ed** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:58 pm

JimW wrote:
TMH,

I've read that before. I briefly thought about the idea of fishing for them before, then I was reading the April issue of Outdoor Canada which has an article on fishing for them. The author catches 1 10" trout in about a week of trying.

If I decided to go I'd spend some time fishing for other fish as well.

Plus I love long road trips.

Jim

I am interested in a road trip.... I have an old beater 16' lund with 25hp yamaha (good sonar though) and I have a tent trailer... so if somebody can pull the tent trailer, and I pull the boat, we can have a pretty cheap fishing trip up north!

Now I know both of you ! ...sounds interesting. Serge - open your front door and we can talk about it.

I probably can't pull the trailer cuz I'll have my own boat...my Dad wouldn't let me go north without him.

Post by **plncrzy** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:26 pm

fishead-ed wrote:[Now I know both of you ! ...sounds interesting. Serge - open your front door and we can talk about it. I probably can't pull the trailer cuz I'll have my own boat...my Dad wouldn't let me go north without him.

Dont tell him

Post by **JimW** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:28 pm

I could leave my boat at home and pull a tent trailer. I'm going to talk to the MNR guys at the Sportsman Show and see if I can find any more info on fishing for Aurora trout.

JimW

Post by **Moosebunk** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:32 pm

If you come up maybe I'll come down and together we'll figure it out.

Besides, I know a couple lads of the I-net over in that there town.

Post by **fishead-ed** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:51 pm

Geez...if Moosebunk is going I'm in for sure. Period.

I've seen the pictures.

Post by **Bruin** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:14 pm

Aurora Trout you say?
If Moosebunk can make the trip then I'll have to try too. I know a few people from that area....

Post by **plncrzy** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:47 am

http://www.ontariotroutfishing.com/aurora-trout.html

http://www.in-fisherman.com/magazine/ex ... 805_Trout/

sounds like there is only a few lakes that we can fish from? And the season is from Aug 1 tp Oct.

My trailer can sleep 3 comfortable (without sharing a bed

)

I could also bring my big family tent (its a KELTY) which can sleep an additional 4 very comfortably.

These trout like the water cold so either down rigging below thermocline in the summer or going after them in Oct.

Post by **FireFox** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:12 am

Hey JimW,

Another ex-northerner here.

I am lucky enough to have fished 2 of these lakes (one of which is open this year) in the Kirkland Lake district for aurora trout in the years they were open. We managed to only loose one at the canoe side while trying to net it for our efforts though (argh!)

I would say that both lakes that I fished were small pothole style lakes - very small with quite steep shorelines (not much in the way of visible cover), very clear water and mucky bottoms . Its definitely a hard fish. You could paddle the length of the lake in only a few minutes, and you will be looking at trying to find the suspended trout. You might be able to hand launch a 12 foot tin can, but a canoe is going to be a lot easier - there are no launches at the lakes I was at, just a small sandy opening in the bog that meets the road. There are lots of other lakes in the area that have decent pike and speckled trout fishing as well. A truck would be a good idea to get to the lake as well - some of the logging roads wouldn't be my idea of fun in a sedan. In late August early september there would likely also be some good blueberry picking around the area as well.

TMH: With a little searching I was able to find the source of the regulations you posted.
http://www.brooktrout.ca/open-lakes-for ... -trout.htm
and I agree with their message - but I dont see the same kind of details in the MNR regulations. The MNR rules say that no live baitfish can be used - the brooktrout.ca site states no live bait. I wonder why the MNR doesnt include the federal endangered species rules in their notes as well. Either way I agree that the catch and release thing is a bad idea - I just wonder how many people who do go to fishing for these trout get that from their regulation booklets. Im all for advocacy of best angling practices - it just would be nice if they had cited the source/sections of the regulations they have in their information packet.

Fox

Post by **plncrzy** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:30 pm

GREAT link... thanks... I could not find Nayowin lake... but Big Club has not too baccess and there are camp grounds nearby.

Such a nice looking fish. If I catch one I will have it mounted.